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From: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>
To: Eric DeCosta <edecosta@mathworks.com>,
	Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 16:15:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04e07c9a-6a74-b731-75e5-7d6cd9d8931c@jeffhostetler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR05MB55718D2BE72492E74EF2A671D96C9@BL0PR05MB5571.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>



On 8/19/22 2:38 PM, Eric DeCosta wrote:
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2022 12:50 PM
>> To: Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>;
>> git@vger.kernel.org
>> Cc: Eric DeCosta <edecosta@mathworks.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against
>> network-mounted repos
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/18/22 4:48 PM, Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget wrote:
>>> From: Eric DeCosta <edecosta@mathworks.com>
>>>

[...]
> Yes, the point is to allow users to try it out.  Self-servingly, I have about
> 3K users who make heavy use of network-mounted sandboxes on the
> three major platforms; all connecting via NFS or SMB to Linux file
> servers.  Hardly exhaustive, but the file system change notification APIs
> (inotify, FSEvents, and ReadDirectoryCHangesW) all seem to work correctly.
> Thus my motivation to work on this aspect of git :-)

Perfect.  I have to be careful here, I don't want to discourage
experimentation and testing -- and if you have access to a pool of
users who can beat on it, then great let's try it.

At the time, I didn't have such a "captive audience"... :-)

And I just wanted to be sure that everyone understood that some of
these combinations have never been tried....

[...]
> As far as multiple client machines mounting the remote repo, I have
> doubts that FSMonitor would even see changes made from another
> machine. Worth trying out and documenting as needed - might even
> be better off being considered as unsupported.

Yeah, that's another dimension.  (1) is whether we miss events
that we generated locally.  (2) is whether events get relayed to
us from other clients.


>> There was a suggestion later in this thread about using a SHA-1
>> or SHA-256 hash of the pathname to avoid the tmp XXXXXX pattern
>> and just put the socket in $HOME (and omit the need for the new
>> fsmonitor-daemon.ipc FILE completely).  This might work, but we
>> need to be careful because a user might have hardlinks or symlinks
>> locally so there may be more than one unique path to the repo
>> on the local system.  (It is OK to have more than one daemon
>> listening to a repo, just less efficient.)
>>
> Ah, I see.
> 
>>
>> As an interim step, you might try using my original socket code
>> plus just the config.allowRemote=true change.  And test it on a
>> mounted repo where you've converted the .git directory to a .git
>> file and moved contents of the .git directory to somewhere local.
>> Then the UDS would be created in the local GITDIR instead of on
>> the remote system.  This won't help any of the sharing cases I
>> described above, but will let you experiment with getting remote
>> events.
>>
> Within the context of the environment that I have available to me
> (macOS over NFS to a Linux file server), FSEvents is working correctly.
> I can make changes at any arbitrary place inside of the repo and an
> event is generated.
> 
> It's looking like that the Unix domain socket (UDS) file should remain
> where it is unless fsmonitor.allowRemote is true.
> 
> If fsmonitor.allowRemote is true then the UDS file can be located
> in $HOME with the caveat that if there is more than one path to
> the repo (via hard or sym links) that things might not work as
> expected.  I think that's OK given the experimental nature of the
> feature.

Yeah, I'd experiment with moving the UDS to $HOME (assuming you don't
remote mount home directories too) and see how it works for you.
Later, after we have more experience with it, we can talk about just
having it always be in $HOME.

Jeff


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-19 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 177+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-18 20:48 [PATCH] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-18 21:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-18 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-19 10:05 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-19 16:50 ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-08-19 18:38   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-08-19 20:15     ` Jeff Hostetler [this message]
2022-08-19 17:48 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-19 18:58 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2022-08-20 22:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-22 13:22   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-22 16:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-23 13:51     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-08-24 15:45       ` Eric DeCosta
2022-08-23 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] fsmonitor: macOS: " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] Check working directory and Unix domain socket file for compatability edecosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Minor refactoring and simplification of Windows settings checks edecosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 18:55   ` [PATCH v3 0/2] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 18:55     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] fsmonitor: macOS: " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 18:55     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Check working directory and Unix domain socket file for compatability edecosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-24 20:31       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-24 16:46     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-08-31 16:09     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] fsmonitor: add two new config options, allowRemote and socketDir Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 19:41         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-31 20:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-01  2:25           ` Ramsay Jones
2022-09-01 17:53         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-01 18:04         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-01 21:21         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-02 16:54           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 14:27             ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] fsmonitor: generate unique Unix socket file name in the desired location Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 19:49         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-31 20:11         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] fsmonitor: ensure filesystem and unix socket filesystem are compatible Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] fsmonitor: normalize FSEvents event paths to the real path Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 19:37         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-01 20:05         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-02 16:35           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 17:13             ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-06 19:02               ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 19:33                 ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 22:11                   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-07 19:14                   ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-07 23:04                     ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-10 20:00       ` [PATCH v5 0/4] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-11  1:01           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-12 15:27         ` [PATCH v5 0/4] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-09-12 19:37           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-12 19:39             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-12 15:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-12 19:35           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-13 20:27         ` [PATCH v6 0/6] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 1/6] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 2/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 3/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-14  0:48             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-14 15:47               ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 4/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-14  1:48             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 5/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 17:58           ` [PATCH v6 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-16 20:02             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-16 19:53           ` [PATCH v7 " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 20:11               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19 12:31                 ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-19 16:42                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19 17:08                     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-19 17:49                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19 23:51                         ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-20 14:35                           ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-20 15:49                             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 5/6] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 20:15               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 20:09             ` [PATCH v7 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-09-17  1:12             ` [PATCH v8 0/5] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 1/5] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 2/5] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  4:13                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-19 16:50                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-17  6:29                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-17 16:29                   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-19 16:58                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 3/5] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 4/5] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 5/5] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  6:08                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-19 23:55                   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-19 19:37               ` [PATCH v9 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:57                   ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                 ` [PATCH v10 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 11:22                     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-21 13:03                       ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                   ` [PATCH v11 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                     ` [PATCH v12 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-26 15:16                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27  1:53                           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-26 15:27                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-25 14:00                         ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-26 15:23                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27  1:25                           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-26 15:11                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27  2:16                           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-27  4:03                             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-25 14:18                       ` [PATCH v12 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta
2022-09-27 20:57                       ` [PATCH v13 " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28  5:55                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                         ` [PATCH v14 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                           ` [PATCH v15 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30  9:37                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30  9:58                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30 10:08                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30 10:04                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-05 18:05                             ` [PATCH v15 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-10-05 21:14                               ` Eric DeCosta
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-08-09 17:44 [PATCH] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 16:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-10 18:49   ` Eric D
2022-08-10 19:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-10 20:36       ` Eric D
2022-08-10 21:30         ` Eric D
2022-08-10 21:41           ` Junio C Hamano

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