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From: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
To: stolee@gmail.com
Cc: szeder.dev@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org, peff@peff.net,
	gitster@pobox.com, avarab@gmail.com, sbeller@google.com,
	pclouds@gmail.com, jonathantanmy@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Bloom filter experiment
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:41:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181016234129.194138-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61559c5b-546e-d61b-d2e1-68de692f5972@gmail.com>

> | Implementation | Queries | Maybe | FP # | FP %  |
> |----------------|---------|-------|------|-------|
> | Szeder         | 66095   | 1142  | 256  | 0.38% |
> | Jonathan       | 66459   | 107   | 89   | 0.16% |
> | Stolee         | 53025   | 492   | 479  | 0.90% |
> 
> (Note that we must have used different starting points, which is why my 
> "Queries" is so much smaller.)

I suspect it's because your bloom filter implementation covers only the
first parent (if I'm understanding get_bloom_filter() correctly). When I
only covered the first parent in my initial test (see patch 2 of [1]), I
got (following the columns in the table above):

  53096 107 89 0.001676

Also, I think that the rejecting power (Queries - Maybe)/(Total tree
comparisons if no bloom filters were used) needs to be in the evaluation
criteria somewhere, as that indicates how many tree comparisons we
managed to avoid.

Also, we probably should also test on a file that changes more
frequently :-)

[1] https://public-inbox.org/git/cover.1539219248.git.jonathantanmy@google.com/

> The increase in false-positive percentage is expected in my 
> implementation. I'm using the correct filter sizes to hit a <1% FP 
> ratio. This could be lowered by changing the settings, and the size 
> would dynamically grow. For my Git repo (which contains 
> git-for-windows/git and microsoft/git) this implementation grows the 
> commmit-graph file from 5.8 MB to 7.3 MB (1.5 MB total, compared to 
> Szeder's 8MB filter). For 105,260 commits, that rounds out to less than 
> 20 bytes per commit (compared to Jonathan's 256 bytes per commit).

Mine has 256 bits per commit, which is 32 bytes per commit (still more
than yours).

Having said all that, thanks for writing up your version - in
particular, variable sized filters (like in yours) seem to be the way to
go.

> We'll see how much time I have to do this polish, but I think the 
> benefit is proven.

Agreed.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-16 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-03 13:23 We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 13:36 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-03 13:42   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-03 14:18     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 14:01   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 14:17     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-03 14:22       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 14:53         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-03 15:19           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 16:59             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-05  6:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-10 22:07                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-10 23:01                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 19:08           ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-03 19:21             ` Jeff King
2018-10-03 20:35               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 17:47         ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-03 18:47           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 18:51             ` Jeff King
2018-10-03 18:59               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-03 19:18                 ` Jeff King
2018-10-08 16:41                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-08 16:57                     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-08 18:10                       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-08 18:29                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-09  3:08                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 13:48                             ` Bloom Filters (was Re: We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph) Derrick Stolee
2018-10-09 18:45                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-09 18:46                               ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 19:03                                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-09 21:14                                   ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:12                                     ` Bloom Filters Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:13                                       ` [PoC -- do not apply 1/3] initial tree-bitmap proof of concept Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:14                                       ` [PoC -- do not apply 2/3] test-tree-bitmap: add "dump" mode Jeff King
2018-10-10  0:48                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-11  3:13                                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:14                                       ` [PoC -- do not apply 3/3] test-tree-bitmap: replace ewah with custom rle encoding Jeff King
2018-10-10  0:58                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-11  3:20                                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-11 12:33                                       ` Bloom Filters Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11 13:43                                         ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 21:30                             ` We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                       ` [PATCH 0/4] Bloom filter experiment SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 1/4] Add a (very) barebones Bloom filter implementation SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 2/4] commit-graph: write a Bloom filter containing changed paths for each commit SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 21:06                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 21:37                             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 3/4] revision.c: use the Bloom filter to speed up path-limited revision walks SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 4/4] revision.c: add GIT_TRACE_BLOOM_FILTER for a bit of statistics SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:47                         ` [PATCH 0/4] Bloom filter experiment Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11  1:21                         ` [PATCH 0/2] Per-commit filter proof of concept Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11  1:21                           ` [PATCH 1/2] One filter per commit Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11 12:49                             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11 19:11                               ` [PATCH] Per-commit and per-parent filters for 2 parents Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11  1:21                           ` [PATCH 2/2] Only make bloom filter for first parent Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11  7:37                           ` [PATCH 0/2] Per-commit filter proof of concept Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-15 14:39                         ` [PATCH 0/4] Bloom filter experiment Derrick Stolee
2018-10-16  4:45                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-16 11:13                             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-16 12:57                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-16 13:03                                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-18  2:00                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-16 23:41                           ` Jonathan Tan [this message]
2018-10-08 23:02                     ` We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph Junio C Hamano
2018-10-03 14:32     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-03 16:45 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-04 21:42 ` [RFC PATCH] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 12:05   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 13:05     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 13:45       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 14:04         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 19:21         ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 19:41           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 19:47             ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 20:00               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 20:02                 ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 20:01               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 20:09                 ` Jeff King

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