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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Carlo Arenas <carenas@gmail.com>
Cc: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 support
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:26:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <211118.86lf1m5h1y.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPUEspg=ef9xSiYsVKHfo7zogExeMwL3gMnN_bq1QcKv0fnNng@mail.gmail.com>


On Wed, Nov 17 2021, Carlo Arenas wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 3:18 PM brian m. carlson
> <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 2021-11-17 at 03:01:57, Jeff King wrote:
>> > My thinking was that breaking older compilers was preferable to breaking
>> > non-gnu ones, because at least old ones go away eventually. But your
>> > other email makes me wonder if those non-GNU ones may already be
>> > overriding CFLAGS.
>>
>> Our only problem platform, as far as I can tell, is RHEL/CentOS 7.  That
>> uses GCC 4.8, and even Ubuntu 18.04 ships with GCC 7.
>
> There are several odd BSD platforms that are still stuck in pre-GPLv3
> gcc (AKA gcc 4.2.1) like OpenBSD Alpha, hppa, landisk (and maybe also
> SPARC64 which is tier1) and that will need the same, there is indeed
> also luna88k that uses an even older gcc but hopefully will be able to
> work if it understands enough C99 and can be told to use it by this
> flag.
>
>> > Still, if we can come up with a solution that breaks neither (with some
>> > light auto-detection or heuristics in the Makefile), that could be the
>> > best of both worlds.
>>
>> I can move COMPILER_FEATURES out of config.mak.dev and into Makefile so
>> that we can make use of it.  We'll need to depend on GCC 6 for this
>> because we lack a way to distinguish 5.1 (which should work) from 5.0
>> (which will not).
>
> 5.0 works AFAIK, is anything older than 5 than does not as reported[1]
> before, but it won't be still a good fit, since it only works for gcc
> and clang AS-IS.
>
> Carlo
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAPUEsphnCvK+RZ+h30ZarA1zo9yZ=ndEBrcAbKGf4W92j647vA@mail.gmail.com/

Rather than moving around COMPILER_FEATURES etc. we can just compile a C
program as part of our Makefile auto-configuration. See the direction
suggested in:
https://lore.kernel.org/git/87bl6aypke.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/

That example is ad-hoc, but the right way to do this is:

 1. Stick a C program somewhere, maybe git-autoconf/compiler.c 
 2. (Try to) Compile that unconditionally
 3. Emit its output to a generated file that we then "include", which
    likewise if it fails indicate that in something the Makefile can
    "include".

Since we set up that file-based dependency relationship we'll only do
that auto-detection on the first build.

This is really much simpler than fiddling with the version parsing
shellscript, i.e. we can just compile a program with -std=c99 or
whatever and see if it works, and if it does we stick that flag in
CFLAGS or equivalent.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-18  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-14 21:24 [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 brian m. carlson
2021-11-14 21:24 ` [PATCH 1/1] git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 support brian m. carlson
2021-11-15  1:14   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15  1:54     ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-15  3:16   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-16  1:53     ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-22 11:47   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-14 21:43 ` [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 brian m. carlson
2021-11-15  7:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-15 22:41   ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-16 19:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-17  1:51       ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-16  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 support brian m. carlson
2021-11-16  2:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/1] git-compat-util: add " brian m. carlson
2021-11-16 12:19     ` Jeff King
2021-11-16 12:54       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-16 14:54         ` Jeff King
2021-11-17  2:53           ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-17  3:01             ` Jeff King
2021-11-17 23:18               ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-17 23:45                 ` Carlo Arenas
2021-11-18  2:26                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-11-18 19:10                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-17  8:49           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-16 19:44       ` Phillip Wood
2021-11-17  1:44       ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-17  2:58         ` Jeff King
2021-11-30 20:43 ` Microsoft's C language policy (was: [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 22:37   ` brian m. carlson
2021-12-01  1:40 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 support brian m. carlson
2021-12-01  1:40   ` [PATCH v3 1/1] git-compat-util: add " brian m. carlson
2021-12-02 17:38     ` Johannes Schindelin

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