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From: Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>
To: "Jakub Narębski" <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>,
	mlbright@gmail.com,
	"Remi Galan Alfonso" <remi.galan-alfonso@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr>,
	"Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	e@80x24.org, ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Git filter protocol
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:14:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <31219A33-CA8A-44D1-9DE0-6448AA1A7571@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <579B087F.7090108@gmail.com>


> On 29 Jul 2016, at 09:40, Jakub Narębski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> W dniu 2016-07-28 o 15:29, Jeff King pisze:
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 09:16:18AM +0200, Lars Schneider wrote:
>> 
>>> But Peff ($gmane/299902), Duy, and Eric, seemed to prefer the pkt-line
>>> solution (gmane is down - otherwise I would have given you the links).
>> 
>> FWIW, I think there are arguments for transmitting size + content
>> (namely, that it is simpler); the downside is that it doesn't allow
>> streaming.
> 
> And that it requires for the filter to know the size of its output
> upfront (which, as I wrote, might be easy to do based on size of input
> and data stored elsewhere, or might need generating whole output to
> know).
> 
> I don't know how parallel Git is, but if it is parallel enough,
> and other limits do not apply (limited amount of CPU cores, I/O limits),
> without streaming new filter protocol might be slower, unless startup
> time dominates (MS Windows?):
> 
> Current parallel:
> 
>   |   startup   | processing 1 |
>    |  startup    | processing 2  |
>   | startup |  processing 3 |
>     |  startup  |  processing 4  |
> 
> Protocol v2:
> 
>   |  startup  | processing 1 | processing 2 | processing 3 | processing 4 |

Based on the current filter design the "single-shot" invocations are
not executed in parallel.


>> So I think there are two viable alternatives:
>> 
>>  1. Total size of data in ASCII decimal, newline, then that many bytes
>>     of content.
>> 
>>  2. No size header, then a series of pkt-lines followed by a flush
>>     packet.
> 
>    3. Optional size header[2][3], then a series of pkt-lines followed
>       by a flush packet[4].
> 
> [2] Git should always provide size, because it is easy to do, and
>    I think quite cheap (stored with blob, stored in index, or stat()
>    on file away).  Filter can provide size if it is easy to calculate,
>    or approximation of size / size hint[5] - it helps to avoid
>    reallocation.

Agreed!


> [3] It is also a place where filter can pass error conditions that
>    are known before starting processing a file.

I am not sure I understand what you mean. Can you think of an example?


> [4] On one hand you need to catch cases where real size is larger than
>    size sent upfront, or smaller than size sent upfront; on the
>    other hand it might be a place where to send warnings and errors...
>    unless we utilize stderr of a process (but then there is a problem
>    of deadlocking, I think).
> [5] I suggest
> 
>        <size as ascii decimal>
>        "approx" SPC <size as ascii decimal>
>        "unknown"
>        "fail"

My current implementation supports only two cases. Either the filter
knows the size and sends it back. Or the filter doesn't know the size
and Git reads until the flush packet (your "unknown" case). "Approx" is 
probably hard to do and fail shouldn't be part of the size, no?

That being said a "fail" response is a very good idea! This allows
the filter to communicate to git that a non required filter process
failed. I will add that to the protocol. Thanks :) 

- Lars



  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-29  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-22 15:48 [PATCH v1 0/3] Git filter protocol larsxschneider
2016-07-22 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] convert: quote filter names in error messages larsxschneider
2016-07-22 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] convert: modernize tests larsxschneider
2016-07-26 15:18   ` Remi Galan Alfonso
2016-07-26 20:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-22 15:49 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] convert: add filter.<driver>.useProtocol option larsxschneider
2016-07-22 22:32   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-07-24 12:09     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-22 23:19   ` Ramsay Jones
2016-07-22 23:28     ` Ramsay Jones
2016-07-24 17:16     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-24 22:36       ` Ramsay Jones
2016-07-24 23:22         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:32           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 10:58             ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:24         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-23  0:11   ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-23  7:27     ` Eric Wong
2016-07-26 20:00       ` Jeff King
2016-07-24 18:36     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-24 20:14       ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-24 21:30         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:16           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 12:24             ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25 20:09         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 14:18           ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-23  8:14   ` Eric Wong
2016-07-24 19:11     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-25  7:27       ` Eric Wong
2016-07-25 15:48       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-22 21:39 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] Git filter protocol Junio C Hamano
2016-07-24 11:24   ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-26 20:11     ` Jeff King
2016-07-27  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " larsxschneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] convert: quote filter names in error messages larsxschneider
2016-07-27 20:01     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28  8:23       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] convert: modernize tests larsxschneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] pkt-line: extract and use `set_packet_header` function larsxschneider
2016-07-27  0:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-27  9:13       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27 16:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] convert: generate large test files only once larsxschneider
2016-07-27  2:35     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-07-27 13:32       ` Jeff King
2016-07-27 16:50         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option larsxschneider
2016-07-27  1:32     ` Jeff King
2016-07-27 17:31       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-27 18:11         ` Jeff King
2016-07-28 12:10           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-28 13:35             ` Jeff King
2016-07-27  9:41     ` Eric Wong
2016-07-29 10:38       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 11:24         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29 11:31           ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 18:55         ` Eric Wong
2016-08-05 23:26           ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 23:38             ` Eric Wong
2016-07-27 23:31     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29  8:04       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 17:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-29 23:11           ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29 23:44             ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-30  9:32               ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28 10:32     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-07-27 19:08   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Git filter protocol Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28  7:16     ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-28 10:42       ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-28 13:29       ` Jeff King
2016-07-29  7:40         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29  8:14           ` Lars Schneider [this message]
2016-07-29 15:57             ` Jeff King
2016-07-29 16:20               ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 16:50                 ` Jeff King
2016-07-29 17:43                   ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 18:27                     ` Jeff King

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