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From: "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>
To: "Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: "John Szakmeister" <john@szakmeister.net>,
	"Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	"Krzysztof Mazur" <krzysiek@podlesie.net>, <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Add core.mode configuration
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:48:46 +0100
Message-ID: <360782C85A2E4C9091EAD1E85D69680C@PhilipOakley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131016230634.GO9464@google.com>

From: "Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>
> Philip Oakley wrote:
>
>> Would this be a good time to suggest a specific wording should be
>> proposed (or a reminder of what was proposed repeated) for the
>> documentation of this option. It will be the documentation that
>> users will refer to when they need to know, rather than the list
>> discussions.
>
> It's not clear to me that this config item is a good idea.
>

My point was that the arguments had been rehearsed and explored, and 
that it was possibly a suitable time for Filippe to update any commit 
message and config item documentation so that the proposal can be 
judged.

> What is the intended use?  If someone wants to test that their scripts
> will continue to work with git 2.0, wouldn't testing a 2.0 release
> candidate (or the current state of the 'jch' branch until one exists)
> be the simplest way to do that?  If someone just likes the proposed
> behavior changes and wants to start using them right away, maybe we
> can help them by releasing 2.0 sooner ;-), or by advertising the
> fairly simple changes in commandline usage to get the new behaviors:
>

In terms of moving forward, there needs to be a balance between being 
stuck in the old world of the 60's, and being projected into the bright 
new world of the 20's (OK so I have exaggerated a bit there ;-). It's 
always been a case of different strokes for different folks - there will 
be folk who will try such an option (in an honest manner), who may not 
be aware of branches that are outside of the regular pu / next / master 
/ maint branches which the project publicises.

Rather than letting the email discussion degenerate by going round in 
circles to the usual end point, having a clarifying proposal (hopefully 
well balanced) would at least allow a cleaner understanding and 
decision.

> Instead of "git add", use "git add -A".
>
> When using "git add -u" or "git add -A" from a subdirectory
> of the toplevel, specify "git add -u ." explicitly unless you
> want it to apply to the whole tree (in which case use
> "git add -u :/").
>
> Instead of letting "git push" guess, name the branch you
> want to push: "git push origin master".  Or set
> '[push] default = simple' in your configuration.
>
> Pass --prefix to "git svn clone".
>
> The downside of configuration like the proposed core.next is that it
> is hard to explain ("What do you mean that I can't roll back to the
> pre-2.0 behavior in Git 2.0 by setting this configuration setting to
> an appropriate value?"), users or scripts can rely on it, and
> configuration variables tend to accumulate and never be removed.  If
> we really want a run-time switch for this, I suspect an appropriately
> named environment variable would work better, since we have a history
> of being able to remove those without alarming people.
>
> My two cents,
> Jonathan
> 

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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-12  7:04 Felipe Contreras
2013-10-14 20:59 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2013-10-14 21:35   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-15 12:35     ` Krzysztof Mazur
2013-10-15 12:32       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-15 13:33         ` Krzysztof Mazur
2013-10-15 13:29           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-15 14:51             ` Krzysztof Mazur
2013-10-15 16:59               ` John Szakmeister
2013-10-16  3:55                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-16  7:09                   ` Krzysztof Mazur
2013-10-16 19:31                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-16 10:54                   ` John Szakmeister
2013-10-16 15:11                     ` John Szakmeister
2013-10-16 19:57                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-16 19:32                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-16 22:02                       ` Philip Oakley
2013-10-16 23:06                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-10-17 19:48                           ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2013-10-17 21:08                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-15 18:51               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-15 22:01                 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2013-10-16  4:03                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-16  6:34                     ` Krzysztof Mazur
2013-10-16 19:28                       ` Felipe Contreras

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