* [PATCH] Documentation/git-bisect.txt: add --no-ff to merge command
@ 2019-10-25 22:20 Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-26 2:26 ` Jonathan Nieder
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mihail Atanassov @ 2019-10-25 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git; +Cc: Mihail Atanassov
The hotfix application example uses `git merge --no-commit` to apply
temporary changes to the working tree during a bisect operation. In some
situations this can be a fast-forward and `merge` will apply the hotfix
branch's commits regardless of `--no-commit` (as documented in the `git
merge` manual).
In the pathological case this will make a `git bisect
run` invocation to loop indefinitely between the first bisect step and
the fast-forwarded post-merge HEAD.
Add `--no-ff` to the merge command to avoid this issue, and make a note
of it for the reader.
Signed-off-by: Mihail Atanassov <m.atanassov92@gmail.com>
---
Documentation/git-bisect.txt | 6 ++++--
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/git-bisect.txt b/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
index 4b45d837a7..58b5585874 100644
--- a/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
+++ b/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
@@ -412,8 +412,10 @@ $ cat ~/test.sh
#!/bin/sh
# tweak the working tree by merging the hot-fix branch
-# and then attempt a build
-if git merge --no-commit hot-fix &&
+# and then attempt a build. Note the `--no-ff`: `git merge`
+# will otherwise still apply commits if the current HEAD can be
+# fast-forwarded to the hot-fix branch.
+if git merge --no-commit --no-ff hot-fix &&
make
then
# run project specific test and report its status
--
2.16.4
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/git-bisect.txt: add --no-ff to merge command
2019-10-25 22:20 [PATCH] Documentation/git-bisect.txt: add --no-ff to merge command Mihail Atanassov
@ 2019-10-26 2:26 ` Jonathan Nieder
[not found] ` <CALs020+0E=7wy-N46BRLrBcKmMSTpcMyZ9WybmgTzb60aCo5PQ@mail.gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Nieder @ 2019-10-26 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mihail Atanassov; +Cc: git
Hi,
Mihail Atanassov wrote:
> The hotfix application example uses `git merge --no-commit` to apply
> temporary changes to the working tree during a bisect operation. In some
> situations this can be a fast-forward and `merge` will apply the hotfix
> branch's commits regardless of `--no-commit` (as documented in the `git
> merge` manual).
>
> In the pathological case this will make a `git bisect
> run` invocation to loop indefinitely between the first bisect step and
> the fast-forwarded post-merge HEAD.
>
> Add `--no-ff` to the merge command to avoid this issue, and make a note
> of it for the reader.
>
> Signed-off-by: Mihail Atanassov <m.atanassov92@gmail.com>
> ---
> Documentation/git-bisect.txt | 6 ++++--
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
Good catch. Thanks for fixing it.
> diff --git a/Documentation/git-bisect.txt b/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
> index 4b45d837a7..58b5585874 100644
> --- a/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
> @@ -412,8 +412,10 @@ $ cat ~/test.sh
> #!/bin/sh
>
> # tweak the working tree by merging the hot-fix branch
> -# and then attempt a build
> +# and then attempt a build. Note the `--no-ff`: `git merge`
> +# will otherwise still apply commits if the current HEAD can be
> +# fast-forwarded to the hot-fix branch.
Hmm. I think the comment might put a bit too much emphasis on the
"how" instead of the "why". Is it necessary to describe why --no-ff
is used at all here? After all, a reader wondering about it is likely
to check "git help merge", which says
Fast-forward updates do not create a merge commit and
therefore there is no way to stop those merges with
--no-commit. Thus, if you want to ensure your branch is not
changed or updated by the merge command, use --no-ff with
--no-commit.
So I'd be tempted to leave the comment ending with "and then attempt a
build".
Alternatively: the wording says "will still apply commits", but the
reader might not think of a merge as applying patches (that's closer
to what cherry-pick does. Is there some alternative wording that
would convey the intent more clearly?
> -if git merge --no-commit hot-fix &&
> +if git merge --no-commit --no-ff hot-fix &&
Good.
Thanks and hope that helps,
Jonathan
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/git-bisect.txt: add --no-ff to merge command
[not found] ` <CALs020+0E=7wy-N46BRLrBcKmMSTpcMyZ9WybmgTzb60aCo5PQ@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2019-10-28 22:10 ` Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-28 22:24 ` Jonathan Nieder
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mihail Atanassov @ 2019-10-28 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Nieder; +Cc: git
(Cc git@vger.kernel.org)
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 21:51, Mihail Atanassov <m.atanassov92@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Thanks for the quick turnaround! And apologies in advance for the delayed
> and potentially mangled response, I can't get into my gmail account from
> a sensible MUA...
>
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 03:26, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Mihail Atanassov wrote:
> >
> > > The hotfix application example uses `git merge --no-commit` to apply
> > > temporary changes to the working tree during a bisect operation. In some
> > > situations this can be a fast-forward and `merge` will apply the hotfix
> > > branch's commits regardless of `--no-commit` (as documented in the `git
> > > merge` manual).
> > >
> > > In the pathological case this will make a `git bisect
> > > run` invocation to loop indefinitely between the first bisect step and
> > > the fast-forwarded post-merge HEAD.
> > >
> > > Add `--no-ff` to the merge command to avoid this issue, and make a note
> > > of it for the reader.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Mihail Atanassov <m.atanassov92@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > Documentation/git-bisect.txt | 6 ++++--
> > > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > Good catch. Thanks for fixing it.
> >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/git-bisect.txt b/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
> > > index 4b45d837a7..58b5585874 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/git-bisect.txt
> > > @@ -412,8 +412,10 @@ $ cat ~/test.sh
> > > #!/bin/sh
> > >
> > > # tweak the working tree by merging the hot-fix branch
> > > -# and then attempt a build
> > > +# and then attempt a build. Note the `--no-ff`: `git merge`
> > > +# will otherwise still apply commits if the current HEAD can be
> > > +# fast-forwarded to the hot-fix branch.
> >
> > Hmm. I think the comment might put a bit too much emphasis on the
> > "how" instead of the "why". Is it necessary to describe why --no-ff
> > is used at all here? After all, a reader wondering about it is likely
> > to check "git help merge", which says
> >
> > Fast-forward updates do not create a merge commit and
> > therefore there is no way to stop those merges with
> > --no-commit. Thus, if you want to ensure your branch is not
> > changed or updated by the merge command, use --no-ff with
> > --no-commit.
> >
> > So I'd be tempted to leave the comment ending with "and then attempt a
> > build".
>
> Fair point, I actually did spend a bit of time on the fence between your
> suggestion and what I ultimately submitted. I ended up expanding on it
> precisely because the '--no-ff' seems a bit arbitrary to the casual observer
> and requires cross-referencing other documentation (which is how I figured
> out I ought to produce this patch :)).
>
> I can't think of any wording that would be any better, so I'll push a v2 with
> no comment changes, and leave it to the reader's curiosity (or lack thereof).
>
> On a related note, if the user reads all the docs fully, they'll know to use a
> suitable merge-base for the hotfix branch and they won't get into the
> predicament in the first place. So this patch is hiding the underlying issue
> slightly. I'd still prefer to have that failsafe in there, though, for the cases
> where going into an infinite loop is costly (e.g. unattended bisect with
> long-running tests).
>
> >
> > Alternatively: the wording says "will still apply commits", but the
> > reader might not think of a merge as applying patches (that's closer
> > to what cherry-pick does. Is there some alternative wording that
> > would convey the intent more clearly?
> >
> > > -if git merge --no-commit hot-fix &&
> > > +if git merge --no-commit --no-ff hot-fix &&
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > Thanks and hope that helps,
> > Jonathan
>
> --
> Mihail
--
Mihail
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/git-bisect.txt: add --no-ff to merge command
2019-10-28 22:10 ` Mihail Atanassov
@ 2019-10-28 22:24 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-10-29 2:24 ` Junio C Hamano
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Nieder @ 2019-10-28 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mihail Atanassov; +Cc: git
Hi,
Mihail Atanassov wrote:
> Thanks for the quick turnaround! And apologies in advance for the delayed
> and potentially mangled response, I can't get into my gmail account from
> a sensible MUA...
Interesting. https://support.google.com/mail/thread/11736136 tells me
there's an issue with Kmail's oauth support. You might want to get in
touch with the Kmail authors, or, as a fallback, use an application
specific password or other mail client.
[...]
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 03:26, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm. I think the comment might put a bit too much emphasis on the
>> "how" instead of the "why".
[...]
>> So I'd be tempted to leave the comment ending with "and then attempt a
>> build".
>
> Fair point, I actually did spend a bit of time on the fence between your
> suggestion and what I ultimately submitted. I ended up expanding on it
> precisely because the '--no-ff' seems a bit arbitrary to the casual observer
> and requires cross-referencing other documentation (which is how I figured
> out I ought to produce this patch :)).
>
> I can't think of any wording that would be any better, so I'll push a v2 with
> no comment changes, and leave it to the reader's curiosity (or lack thereof).
Thanks, that sounds good to me.
As an orthogonal point, I wonder whether we can start the multi-step
migration of making --no-commit imply --no-ff by default:
1. Act as --ff when --no-commit is passed without --ff or --no-ff
(the state today)
2. Warn when performing a fast-forward merge and --no-commit was
passed without --ff or --no-ff
3. Error out instead of performing a fast-forward merge when
--no-commit is passed without --ff or --no-ff
4. Warn and refuse to perform a fast-forward merge when --no-commit
is passed without --ff or --no-ff
5. Refuse to perform a fast-forward merge with --no-commit is passed
without --ff or --no-ff, just as though --no-ff were passed.
(A config setting could allow people to get the futuristic behavior
early. And it might be possible to skip some steps. :))
[...]
>>> -if git merge --no-commit hot-fix &&
>>> +if git merge --no-commit --no-ff hot-fix &&
>>
>> Good.
This part still looks like a good change to me. :)
Sincerely,
Jonathan
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/git-bisect.txt: add --no-ff to merge command
2019-10-28 22:24 ` Jonathan Nieder
@ 2019-10-29 2:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-10-29 3:25 ` Junio C Hamano
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2019-10-29 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Nieder; +Cc: Mihail Atanassov, git
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:
> As an orthogonal point, I wonder whether we can start the multi-step
> migration of making --no-commit imply --no-ff by default:
>
> 1. Act as --ff when --no-commit is passed without --ff or --no-ff
> (the state today)
which means "--no-commit controls whether a new commit is created or
not and nothing else, and because --ff is the default for merge,
merging a true descendant will fast-forward".
> 5. Refuse to perform a fast-forward merge with --no-commit is passed
> without --ff or --no-ff, just as though --no-ff were passed.
Is that a good endgame, though? It is correct that "--no-ff" means
"do not allow the merge to be fast-forwarded and the way the option
does so is by creating an otherwise unnecessary merge commit", and
"--no-commit" means "do not allow creating any new commit", so
technically they are mutually incompatible, but would it be useful?
I'd imagine that a more useful behaviour would be for "git merge X"
with any other options to honor this basic trait: the working tree
and the index after the operation shows the result of merging X and
HEAD, if the merge can cleanly be made, and otherwise the working
tree and the index would show something close to the result of such
a merge with conflicts that would help recording the result of the
merge manually.
For that, wouldn't it make more sense ot change the semantics of the
"--no-commit" option from "no new commit gets created" to "HEAD is
not moved"? "git merge --no-commit X" when X is a descendant of
HEAD would then become "git read-tree -m -u HEAD X" plus perhaps
storing X in .git/MERGE_HEAD file etc. to prepare for concluding
"git commit" to record the result manually.
In any case, as you said,
>>>> -if git merge --no-commit hot-fix &&
>>>> +if git merge --no-commit --no-ff hot-fix &&
>>>
>>> Good.
>
> This part still looks like a good change to me. :)
This looks good to me too.
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/git-bisect.txt: add --no-ff to merge command
2019-10-29 2:24 ` Junio C Hamano
@ 2019-10-29 3:25 ` Junio C Hamano
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2019-10-29 3:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Nieder; +Cc: Mihail Atanassov, git
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> As an orthogonal point, I wonder whether we can start the multi-step
>> migration of making --no-commit imply --no-ff by default:
>>
>> 1. Act as --ff when --no-commit is passed without --ff or --no-ff
>> (the state today)
>
> which means "--no-commit controls whether a new commit is created or
> not and nothing else, and because --ff is the default for merge,
> merging a true descendant will fast-forward".
>
>> 5. Refuse to perform a fast-forward merge with --no-commit is passed
>> without --ff or --no-ff, just as though --no-ff were passed.
>
> Is that a good endgame, though?
Ah, I was confused by "refuse to perform". You were not trying to
make the command fail outright without doing anything. Yes, that
would be a good endgame, I would think.
I am not sure if the transition would be smooth, though.
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