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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>, Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/10] object.c: stop supporting len == -1 in type_from_string_gently()
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:25:05 -0700
Message-ID: <xmqq8s67m8zi.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgynmgbk.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IsOGdmFyIEFy?= =?utf-8?B?bmZqw7Zyw7A=?= Bjarmason"'s message of "Sun, 28 Mar 2021 17:46:39 +0200")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

>> At least, replacing an already queued topic with v2 would not
>> increase the number of topics that are supposedly in-flight but not
>> quite moving due to lack of reviews and responses, unlike bunch of
>> totally new patches ;-)
>
> I'm not sure what to do to improve things in that area.
>
> I'm obviously for increasing the net velocity of my patches making it to
> master, but if it's held up my number of reviews a submission of Y won't
> necessarily make X worse, since people who've got an interest in Y will
> be different than those with an interest in X.
>
> But some of it's definitely on my end, e.g. re-rolls sometimes taking me
> longer than I'd prefer. It's a different activity to dissect outstanding
> reviews & re-roll than writing code, and sometimes I'm interested in one
> over the other...

What I'd like to encourage contributors to think is the velocity in
the whole project, not only their own patches.  The changes proposed
on the list would consume the review bandwidth, which is
unfortunately not an infinite resource.

To balance the supply and the consumption, one way might be to
throttle incoming patches to restrict consumption and distribute the
supply more evenly among authors.  But a more desirable way that
would benefit the community more would be to increase the supply.

If all of those who consume the review bandwidth tip in by reviewing
others' patches, not limited to the area they are interested in but
more in the "I am not so familiar with the area, but I've been here
long enough and know general principles, so let's polish your patch
together" spirit, that would help the community greatly, I would
think, by:

 - replenishing review bandwidth they consumed from the pool;

 - throttling their patch flow that consume review bandwidth (while
   they are reviewing others patches, they won't be throwing new
   patches at the list to consume even more review bandwidth);

 - helping the reviewers themselves become more familiar with the
   parts of the code they are not working in right now.

I am reasonably sure I and a few others on the list are net
suppliers of the reviewer bandwidth.  I do not expect all the
prolific contributors to become net suppliers; after all, designing
and writing their own stuff is always fun.  But I wish that the most
prominent contributors in the community to be reviewing others'
topics and ushering these topics to completion from time to time,
and I am hoping to see that happen more.

Thanks.

  reply index

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-22  0:33 [PATCH 0/2] Pull objects of various types Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-22  0:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] Parse tags for absent objects Daniel Barkalow
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 0/7] improve reporting of unexpected objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13     ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 01/10] object.c: stop supporting len == -1 in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  5:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-28 15:46           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28 18:25             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-04-22 18:09               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 02/10] object.c: refactor type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 03/10] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 04/10] object-file.c: make oid_object_info() " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 05/10] object-name.c: make dependency on object_type order more obvious Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 06/10] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 07/10] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 08/10] object.c: add and use oid_is_type_or_die_msg() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 09/10] object tests: add test for unexpected objects in tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 10/10] tag: don't misreport type of tagged objects in errors Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-30  5:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 11:02           ` Jeff King
2021-03-31 18:05             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 18:31             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-31 18:59               ` Jeff King
2021-03-31 20:46                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01  7:54                   ` Jeff King
2021-04-01  8:32                     ` [PATCH] ref-filter: fix NULL check for parse object failure Jeff King
2021-04-01 13:56                       ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mktag tests & fix for-each-ref segfault Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mktag tests: parse out options in helper Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mktag tests: invert --no-strict test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mktag tests: do fsck on failure Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mktag tests: test for maybe segfaulting for-each-ref Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 5/5] ref-filter: fix NULL check for parse object failure Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 19:19                           ` Ramsay Jones
2021-04-01 19:56                         ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mktag tests & fix for-each-ref segfault Junio C Hamano
2021-04-02 11:37                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-02 20:51                             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-01 19:52                       ` [PATCH] ref-filter: fix NULL check for parse object failure Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 18:41             ` [PATCH v2 10/10] tag: don't misreport type of tagged objects in errors Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 19:00               ` Jeff King
2021-03-28  9:27       ` [PATCH v2 00/10] improve reporting of unexpected objects Jeff King
2021-03-29 13:34         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-31 10:43           ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:07       ` [PATCH 0/2] blob/object.c: trivial readability improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:07         ` [PATCH 1/2] blob.c: remove buffer & size arguments to parse_blob_buffer() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 17:51           ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 22:31             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-10 12:57             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-10 13:01               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-13  8:25               ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:07         ` [PATCH 2/2] object.c: initialize automatic variable in lookup_object() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 17:53           ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 22:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-09  8:32         ` [PATCH 0/6] {tag,object}*.c: refactorings + prep for a larger change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 1/6] object.c: stop supporting len == -1 in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:06             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 18:10               ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 2/6] object.c: remove "gently" argument to type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:10             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 3/6] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:14             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 19:42               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 21:29                 ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 4/6] object-file.c: make oid_object_info() " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:24             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 5/6] object-name.c: make dependency on object_type order more obvious Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:36             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 6/6] tag.c: use type_from_string_gently() when parsing tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:42             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:49           ` [PATCH 0/7] object.c: add and use "is expected" utility function + object_as_type() use Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 1/7] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 2/7] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 3/7] object.c: add and use oid_is_type_or_die_msg() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 4/7] commit-graph: use obj->type, not object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:50             ` [PATCH 5/7] commit.c: don't use deref_tag() -> object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:50             ` [PATCH 6/7] object.c: normalize brace style in object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:50             ` [PATCH 7/7] object.c: remove "quiet" parameter from object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36             ` [PATCH v2 0/8] object.c: add and use "is expected" utility function + object_as_type() use Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 1/8] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 2/8] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 22:02                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-04-22  6:10                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 3/8] object.c: add and use oid_is_type_or_die_msg() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 22:07                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-04-21 23:28                 ` Josh Steadmon
2021-04-28  4:12                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 4/8] commit-graph: use obj->type, not object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 5/8] branch tests: assert lookup_commit_reference_gently() error Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 6/8] commit.c: don't use deref_tag() -> object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 22:26                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 7/8] object.c: normalize brace style in object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:37               ` [PATCH v2 8/8] object.c: remove "quiet" parameter from object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00           ` [PATCH v2 00/10] {tag,object}*.c: refactorings + prep for a larger change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 01/10] object.c: stop supporting len == -1 in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 02/10] object.c: remove "gently" argument to type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 03/10] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 04/10] object-file.c: make oid_object_info() " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 05/10] object-name.c: make dependency on object_type order more obvious Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 06/10] tag.c: use type_from_string_gently() when parsing tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 07/10] hash-object: pass along type length to object.c Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 08/10] hash-object: refactor nested else/if/if into else if/else if Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 09/10] hash-object: show usage on invalid --type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 10/10] object.c: move type_from_string() code to its last user Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50         ` [PATCH v2 00/10] object.c et al: tests, small bug fixes etc Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 01/10] cat-file tests: test for bogus type name handling Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:15             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 02/10] hash-object tests: more detailed test for invalid type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 03/10] mktree tests: add test for invalid object type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 04/10] object-file.c: take type id, not string, in read_object_with_reference() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:37             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 05/10] {commit,tree,blob,tag}.c: add a create_{commit,tree,blob,tag}() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:45             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-29 12:01               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 06/10] blob.c: remove parse_blob_buffer() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 07/10] object.c: simplify return semantic of parse_object_buffer() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 08/10] object.c: don't go past "len" under die() in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:55             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 09/10] mktree: stop setting *ntr++ to NIL Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  5:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 10/10] mktree: emit a more detailed error when the <type> is invalid Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 1/7] object.c: refactor type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:52     ` Taylor Blau
2021-03-09 10:46     ` Jeff King
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 2/7] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:56     ` Taylor Blau
2021-03-08 21:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 3/7] oid_object_info(): " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 21:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 22:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-09 10:34     ` Jeff King
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 4/7] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 5/7] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:59     ` Taylor Blau
2021-03-08 22:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 6/7] object tests: add test for unexpected objects in tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-09 10:44     ` Jeff King
2021-03-28  1:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  9:06         ` Jeff King
2021-03-28 15:39           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-29  9:16             ` Jeff King
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 7/7] tag: don't misreport type of tagged objects in errors Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2005-06-22  0:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] Pull misc objects Daniel Barkalow

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