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* BUG: Various "advice.*" config doesn't work
@ 2022-01-28  9:33 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
  2022-01-31 16:16 ` Taylor Blau
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason @ 2022-01-28  9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Git ML; +Cc: Jonathan Tan

$subject, which I started looking at because in 4f3e57ef13d
(submodule--helper: advise on fatal alternate error, 2019-12-02) the
scaffolding was set up to read config, but nothing actually did so. So
"advice.submoduleAlternateErrorStrategyDie=false" has never worked. That
can be tested with:

diff --git a/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh b/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh
index a3892f494b6..8918be9ef5c 100755
--- a/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh
+++ b/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh
@@ -193,7 +193,7 @@ test_expect_success 'missing nested submodule alternate fails clone and submodul
 		cd supersuper-clone &&
 		check_that_two_of_three_alternates_are_used &&
 		# update of the submodule fails
-		test_must_fail git submodule update --init --recursive
+		git -c advice.submoduleAlternateErrorStrategyDie=false submodule update --init --recursive
 	)
 '
 
More generally, the advice API should be made to panic in
advice_if_enabled() if nothing has read the advice config, which would
turns up a lot of other such issues. I can't think of an easy way to
check for that. We could add a BUG() on:

    if (!the_repository->config && !the_repository->config->hash_initialized)

In advice_enabled(), but that wouldn't catch things that have read the
config, but which aren't actually using it to check the advice config.

Probably the inverse would be a good approach, adding a
advice.default=false to turn them all off by default, and then BUG() if
we ever end up emitting advice anywhere (except if other specific config
told us to enable it).

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* Re: BUG: Various "advice.*" config doesn't work
  2022-01-28  9:33 BUG: Various "advice.*" config doesn't work Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
@ 2022-01-31 16:16 ` Taylor Blau
  2022-01-31 17:28   ` Junio C Hamano
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Taylor Blau @ 2022-01-31 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason; +Cc: Git ML, Jonathan Tan

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 10:33:29AM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> $subject, which I started looking at because in 4f3e57ef13d
> (submodule--helper: advise on fatal alternate error, 2019-12-02) the
> scaffolding was set up to read config, but nothing actually did so. So
> "advice.submoduleAlternateErrorStrategyDie=false" has never worked. That
> can be tested with:
>
> diff --git a/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh b/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh
> index a3892f494b6..8918be9ef5c 100755
> --- a/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh
> +++ b/t/t7408-submodule-reference.sh
> @@ -193,7 +193,7 @@ test_expect_success 'missing nested submodule alternate fails clone and submodul
>  		cd supersuper-clone &&
>  		check_that_two_of_three_alternates_are_used &&
>  		# update of the submodule fails
> -		test_must_fail git submodule update --init --recursive
> +		git -c advice.submoduleAlternateErrorStrategyDie=false submodule update --init --recursive
>  	)
>  '
>
> More generally, the advice API should be made to panic in
> advice_if_enabled() if nothing has read the advice config, which would
> turns up a lot of other such issues. I can't think of an easy way to
> check for that. We could add a BUG() on:
>
>     if (!the_repository->config && !the_repository->config->hash_initialized)

I haven't spent much time looking in this area, but isn't the only thing
that reads advice.* config the `git_default_advice_config()` callback?

If so, we could check whether or not it has been called (being careful
to handle the case where we called git_config(), but had an empty
configuration, so the callback itself was never run). If it hasn't, then
we could BUG(), though I'd probably err on the side of just reading it
right before calling advise().

In general, I wonder if making advise() public is a good idea. I think
there are good uses of it, like in builtin/branch.c, where we want to
print advice to the terminal unconditionally.

But having something like (in builtin/add.c:add_files()):

    if (advice_enabled(ADVICE_ADD_IGNORED_FILES))
        advise(_("..."));

feels like it opens the door to call advise() by default if we happened
to forget to read the configuration. I think that is a good candidate to
be replaced with advice_if_enabled().

I'm not sure if that is true in general, though. Take a look at this
example (from branch.c:create_branch()):

    if (advice_enabled(ADVICE_SET_UPSTREAM_FAILURE)) {
        error(_(upstream_missing), start_name);
        advise(_(upstream_advice));
        exit(1);
    }
    die(_(upstream_missing), start_name);

This also makes it possible to call advise() when we shouldn't have. But
how should we rewrite this code? Wanting to either error() (and then
call exit(1)) or die() based on whether or not we're going to print the
advice makes it tricky.

You could imagine something like this:

    if (advice(ADVICE_SET_UPSTREAM_FAILURE, _(upstream_advice))) {
      error(_(upstream_missing), start_name);
      exit(1);
    } else {
      die(_(upstream_missing), start_name);
    }

(where this advice() takes the place of advice_if_enabled(), and has the
dynamic read-advice.*-if-we-haven't-already behavior). But that switches
the order of the output, which may or may not be desirable. I haven't
looked further to see if there are more tricky cases like this.

> Probably the inverse would be a good approach, adding a
> advice.default=false to turn them all off by default, and then BUG() if
> we ever end up emitting advice anywhere (except if other specific config
> told us to enable it).

Maybe, though I still think BUG() is a bit extreme, and we could
accomplish the same by having the advice API just read the config if it
hasn't done so already before emitting advice.

Thanks,
Taylor

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* Re: BUG: Various "advice.*" config doesn't work
  2022-01-31 16:16 ` Taylor Blau
@ 2022-01-31 17:28   ` Junio C Hamano
  2022-01-31 17:34     ` Taylor Blau
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2022-01-31 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Taylor Blau; +Cc: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Git ML, Jonathan Tan

Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:

> But having something like (in builtin/add.c:add_files()):
>
>     if (advice_enabled(ADVICE_ADD_IGNORED_FILES))
>         advise(_("..."));
>
> feels like it opens the door to call advise() by default if we happened
> to forget to read the configuration.

True.

> I think that is a good candidate to
> be replaced with advice_if_enabled().

Meaning advice_enabled() will lazily load the configuration?  If so,
then what you saw in builtin/add.c::add_files() would automatically
become just as safe as advice_if_enabled(), no?

> I'm not sure if that is true in general, though. Take a look at this
> example (from branch.c:create_branch()):
>
>     if (advice_enabled(ADVICE_SET_UPSTREAM_FAILURE)) {
>         error(_(upstream_missing), start_name);
>         advise(_(upstream_advice));
>         exit(1);
>     }
>     die(_(upstream_missing), start_name);
>
> This also makes it possible to call advise() when we shouldn't have. But
> how should we rewrite this code? Wanting to either error() (and then
> call exit(1)) or die() based on whether or not we're going to print the
> advice makes it tricky.

I am puzzled why you think the above "check, do things, give a
piece of advice, and do even more things" needs to be rewritten.

Everything you are showing above becomes a problem only when
advice_enabled() does not work reliably, due to a bug that fails to
read the configuration.

> Maybe, though I still think BUG() is a bit extreme, and we could
> accomplish the same by having the advice API just read the config if it
> hasn't done so already before emitting advice.

Calling things like git_config(git_default_config) with side-effects
on other global variables are definitely a no-no, but as long as it
reacts to configuration variables only under advice.* namespace,
that might be OK.

Thanks.

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* Re: BUG: Various "advice.*" config doesn't work
  2022-01-31 17:28   ` Junio C Hamano
@ 2022-01-31 17:34     ` Taylor Blau
  2022-01-31 17:46       ` Junio C Hamano
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Taylor Blau @ 2022-01-31 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Junio C Hamano
  Cc: Taylor Blau, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Git ML,
	Jonathan Tan

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 09:28:02AM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
>
> > But having something like (in builtin/add.c:add_files()):
> >
> >     if (advice_enabled(ADVICE_ADD_IGNORED_FILES))
> >         advise(_("..."));
> >
> > feels like it opens the door to call advise() by default if we happened
> > to forget to read the configuration.
>
> True.
>
> > I think that is a good candidate to
> > be replaced with advice_if_enabled().
>
> Meaning advice_enabled() will lazily load the configuration?  If so,
> then what you saw in builtin/add.c::add_files() would automatically
> become just as safe as advice_if_enabled(), no?

The change I was wondering aloud about was having advice_enabled()
lazily load the configuration.

So what is written in add_files() above would become safe (if it wasn't
already), and could easily be replaced with advise_if_enabled().

> > I'm not sure if that is true in general, though. Take a look at this
> > example (from branch.c:create_branch()):
> >
> >     if (advice_enabled(ADVICE_SET_UPSTREAM_FAILURE)) {
> >         error(_(upstream_missing), start_name);
> >         advise(_(upstream_advice));
> >         exit(1);
> >     }
> >     die(_(upstream_missing), start_name);
> >
> > This also makes it possible to call advise() when we shouldn't have. But
> > how should we rewrite this code? Wanting to either error() (and then
> > call exit(1)) or die() based on whether or not we're going to print the
> > advice makes it tricky.
>
> I am puzzled why you think the above "check, do things, give a
> piece of advice, and do even more things" needs to be rewritten.
>
> Everything you are showing above becomes a problem only when
> advice_enabled() does not work reliably, due to a bug that fails to
> read the configuration.

What I'm more or less trying to point out is that an unguarded advise()
function defeats the purpose of the advice API, which should exist to
avoid mistakes like these (where advice is printed to the user when they
have already opted out of that advice).

I was thinking that it would be nice to have advise() take an
advice_type enum and have it behave like advise_if_enabled(). But there
are spots that you really do want to print advice unconditionally. And
that spot in create_branch() is one of those where it isn't clear that
the change I'm proposing works.

(BTW, I would definitely disagree that I'm saying anything "needs" to be
rewritten here. This is all just thinking aloud about what the advice
API can and should help callers with.)

> > Maybe, though I still think BUG() is a bit extreme, and we could
> > accomplish the same by having the advice API just read the config if it
> > hasn't done so already before emitting advice.
>
> Calling things like git_config(git_default_config) with side-effects
> on other global variables are definitely a no-no, but as long as it
> reacts to configuration variables only under advice.* namespace,
> that might be OK.

Yes, I definitely agree we should absolutely not be calling
git_default_config() as part of "lazily load the advice.*
configuration".

> Thanks.

Thanks,
Taylor

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* Re: BUG: Various "advice.*" config doesn't work
  2022-01-31 17:34     ` Taylor Blau
@ 2022-01-31 17:46       ` Junio C Hamano
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2022-01-31 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Taylor Blau; +Cc: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Git ML, Jonathan Tan

Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:

> What I'm more or less trying to point out is that an unguarded advise()
> function defeats the purpose of the advice API, which should exist to
> avoid mistakes like these (where advice is printed to the user when they
> have already opted out of that advice).

advise() falls into the same category as die(), warning(), and
error().  It is a way to consistently format (and with a better
design to line-wrap, than its older brethren) messages.

We do not have "die_if(condition, format, ...)", but if there were
such a thing, that would be a good analogy to advice_if_enabled().

And a short-hand of die_if() would not make die() any unnecessary.


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