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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 12/12] vfio/pci: Report dev_id in VFIO_DEVICE_GET_PCI_HOT_RESET_INFO
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 06:03:35 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230407060335.7babfeb8.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS0PR11MB75291E6ED702ADD03AAE023BC3969@DS0PR11MB7529.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 10:09:58 +0000
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> > From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 11:02 PM
> > 
> > On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 09:25:06 +0000
> > "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > > From: Liu, Yi L <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:44 PM  
> > >  
> > > > @@ -791,7 +813,21 @@ static int vfio_pci_fill_devs(struct pci_dev *pdev, void  
> > *data)  
> > > >  	if (!iommu_group)
> > > >  		return -EPERM; /* Cannot reset non-isolated devices */  
> > >
> > > Hi Alex,
> > >
> > > Is disabling iommu a sane way to test vfio noiommu mode?  
> > 
> > Yes
> >   
> > > I added intel_iommu=off to disable intel iommu and bind a device to vfio-pci.
> > > I can see the /dev/vfio/noiommu-0 and /dev/vfio/devices/noiommu-vfio0. Bind
> > > iommufd==-1 can succeed, but failed to get hot reset info due to the above
> > > group check. Reason is that this happens to have some affected devices, and
> > > these devices have no valid iommu_group (because they are not bound to vfio-pci
> > > hence nobody allocates noiommu group for them). So when hot reset info loops
> > > such devices, it failed with -EPERM. Is this expected?  
> > 
> > Hmm, I didn't recall that we put in such a limitation, but given the
> > minimally intrusive approach to no-iommu and the fact that we never
> > defined an invalid group ID to return to the user, it makes sense that
> > we just blocked the ioctl for no-iommu use.  I guess we can do the same
> > for no-iommu cdev.  
> 
> I just realize a further issue related to this limitation. Remember that we
> may finally compile out the vfio group infrastructure in the future. Say I
> want to test noiommu, I may boot such a kernel with iommu disabled. I think
> the _INFO ioctl would fail as there is no iommu_group. Does it mean we will
> not support hot reset for noiommu in future if vfio group infrastructure is
> compiled out?

We're talking about IOMMU groups, IOMMU groups are always present
regardless of whether we expose a vfio group interface to userspace.
Remember, we create IOMMU groups even in the no-iommu case.  Even with
pure cdev, there are underlying IOMMU groups that maintain the DMA
ownership.

> As another thread, we are going to add a new bdf/group capability to
> DEVICE_GET_INFO. If the above kernel is booted, shall we exclude the new
> bdf/group capability or add a flag in the capability to mark the group_id
> is invalid?

As above, there's always an IOMMU group, it's never invalid.  Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-07 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-01 14:44 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 00/12] Introduce new methods for verifying ownership in vfio PCI hot reset Yi Liu
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 01/12] vfio/pci: Update comment around group_fd get in vfio_pci_ioctl_pci_hot_reset() Yi Liu
2023-04-04 13:59   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-04 14:37     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 02/12] vfio/pci: Only check ownership of opened devices in hot reset Yi Liu
2023-04-04 13:59   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-04 14:37     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-04 15:18       ` Eric Auger
2023-04-04 15:29         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-04 15:59           ` Eric Auger
2023-04-05 11:41             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-05 15:14               ` Eric Auger
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 03/12] vfio/pci: Move the existing hot reset logic to be a helper Yi Liu
2023-04-04 13:59   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-04 14:24     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 04/12] vfio-iommufd: Add helper to retrieve iommufd_ctx and devid for vfio_device Yi Liu
2023-04-04 15:28   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-04 21:48     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-21  7:11       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 05/12] vfio/pci: Allow passing zero-length fd array in VFIO_DEVICE_PCI_HOT_RESET Yi Liu
2023-04-04 16:54   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-04 20:18   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05  7:55     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-05  8:01       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-05 15:36         ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 16:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-05  8:02     ` Eric Auger
2023-04-05  8:09       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 06/12] vfio: Refine vfio file kAPIs for vfio PCI hot reset Yi Liu
2023-04-05  8:27   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-05  9:23     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 07/12] vfio: Accpet device file from vfio PCI hot reset path Yi Liu
2023-04-04 20:31   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05  8:07   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-05  8:10     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 08/12] vfio/pci: Renaming for accepting device fd in " Yi Liu
2023-04-04 21:23   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05  9:32   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 09/12] vfio/pci: Accept device fd in VFIO_DEVICE_PCI_HOT_RESET ioctl Yi Liu
2023-04-05  9:36   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 10/12] vfio: Mark cdev usage in vfio_device Yi Liu
2023-04-05 11:48   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-21  7:06     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 11/12] iommufd: Define IOMMUFD_INVALID_ID in uapi Yi Liu
2023-04-04 21:00   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05  9:31     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-05 15:13       ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 15:17         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-05 11:46   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-01 14:44 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v3 12/12] vfio/pci: Report dev_id in VFIO_DEVICE_GET_PCI_HOT_RESET_INFO Yi Liu
2023-04-03  9:25   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-03 15:01     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-03 15:22       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-03 15:32         ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-03 16:12           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-07 10:09       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-07 12:03         ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2023-04-07 13:24           ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-07 13:51             ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-07 14:04               ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-07 15:14                 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-07 15:47                   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-07 21:07                     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-08  5:07                       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-08 14:20                         ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-09 11:58                           ` Yi Liu
2023-04-09 13:29                             ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-10  8:48                               ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-10 14:41                                 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-10 15:18                                   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-10 15:23                                     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-11 13:34                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-11 13:33                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-11  6:16           ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-04 22:20   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 12:19   ` Eric Auger
2023-04-05 14:04     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-05 16:25       ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 16:37         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-05 16:52           ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 17:23             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-05 18:56               ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 19:18                 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 19:21                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-05 19:49                   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 23:22                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-06 10:02                       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-06 17:53                         ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-07 10:09                           ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-11 13:24                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-11 15:54                             ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-11 17:11                               ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-11 18:40                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-11 21:58                                   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-12  0:01                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-12  7:27                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-12 15:05                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-12 17:01                                           ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-13  2:57                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-12 10:09                                       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-12 16:54                                         ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-12 16:50                                       ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-12 20:06                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-13  8:25                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-13 11:50                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-13 14:35                                               ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-13 14:41                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-13 18:07                                               ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-14  9:11                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-14 11:38                                                   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-14 17:10                                                     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-17  4:20                                                       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-17 19:01                                                         ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-17 19:31                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-17 20:06                                                             ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-18  3:24                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-18  4:10                                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-18  5:02                                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-18 12:59                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-18 16:44                                                                     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-18 10:34                                                                   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-18 16:49                                                                     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-18 12:57                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-18 18:39                                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-20 12:10                                                                   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-20 14:08                                                                     ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-21 22:35                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-23 14:46                                                                         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-26  7:22                                                                       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-26 13:20                                                                         ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-26 15:08                                                                           ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-14 16:34                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-17 13:39                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-18  1:28                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-18 10:23                                                     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-18 13:02                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-23 10:28                                                         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-24 17:38                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-17 14:05                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-12  7:14                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-04-06  6:34                     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-06 17:07                       ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-05 17:58         ` Eric Auger
2023-04-06  5:31           ` Liu, Yi L
2023-04-01 14:47 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for Introduce new methods for verifying ownership in vfio PCI hot reset (rev4) Patchwork

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