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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v3 0/3] Add ability to save/restore iov_iter state
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:40:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6688d40c-b359-364b-cdff-1e0714eb6945@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj3dsQMK4y-EeMD1Zyod7=Sv68UqrND-GYgHXx6wNRawA@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/15/21 1:26 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:46 AM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>
>>    The usual tests
>> do end up hitting the -EAGAIN path quite easily for certain device
>> types, but not the short read/write.
> 
> No way to do something like "read in file to make sure it's cached,
> then invalidate caches from position X with POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED, then
> do a read that crosses that cached/uncached boundary"?
> 
> To at least verify that "partly synchronous, but partly punted to
> async" case?
> 
> Or were you talking about some other situation?

No that covers some of it, and that happens naturally with buffered IO.
The typical case is -EAGAIN on the first try, then you get a partial
or all of it the next loop, and then done or continue. I tend to run
fio verification workloads for that, as you get all the flexibility
of fio with the data verification. And there are tests in there that run
DONTNEED in parallel with buffered IO, exactly to catch some of these
csaes. But they don't verify the data, generally.

In that sense buffered is a lot easier than O_DIRECT, as it's easier to
provoke these cases. And that does hit all the save/restore parts and
looping, and if you do it with registered buffers then you get to work
with bvec iter as well. O_DIRECT may get you -EAGAIN for low queue depth
devices, but it'll never do a short read/write after that. 

But that's not in the regressions tests. I'll write a test case
that can go with the liburing regressions for it.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-15 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-15 16:29 Jens Axboe
2021-09-15 16:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] iov_iter: add helper to save " Jens Axboe
2021-09-15 16:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] io_uring: use iov_iter state save/restore helpers Jens Axboe
2021-09-15 16:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] Revert "iov_iter: track truncated size" Jens Axboe
2021-09-15 18:32 ` [PATCHSET v3 0/3] Add ability to save/restore iov_iter state Linus Torvalds
2021-09-15 18:46   ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-15 19:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-15 19:40       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-09-15 22:42         ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-16  1:15           ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-16  4:47 ` Al Viro
2021-09-16 16:10   ` Jens Axboe

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