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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	"Perla, Enrico" <enrico.perla@intel.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] stack: Optionally randomize kernel stack offset each syscall
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:27:19 -0700
Message-ID: <202003301122.354B722@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200330112536.GD1309@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:25:36PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 01:32:29PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * Do not use this anywhere else in the kernel. This is used here because
> > + * it provides an arch-agnostic way to grow the stack with correct
> > + * alignment. Also, since this use is being explicitly masked to a max of
> > + * 10 bits, stack-clash style attacks are unlikely. For more details see
> > + * "VLAs" in Documentation/process/deprecated.rst
> > + */
> > +void *__builtin_alloca(size_t size);
> > +
> > +#define add_random_kstack_offset() do {					\
> > +	if (static_branch_maybe(CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_KSTACK_OFFSET_DEFAULT,	\
> > +				&randomize_kstack_offset)) {		\
> > +		u32 offset = this_cpu_read(kstack_offset);		\
> > +		char *ptr = __builtin_alloca(offset & 0x3FF);		\
> > +		asm volatile("" : "=m"(*ptr));				\
> 
> Is this asm() a homebrew OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR(*ptr)? If the asm
> constraints generate metter code, could we add those as alternative
> constraints in OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR() ?

Er, no, sorry, not the same. I disassembled the wrong binary. :)

With     asm volatile("" : "=m"(*ptr))

ffffffff810038bc:       48 8d 44 24 0f          lea    0xf(%rsp),%rax
ffffffff810038c1:       48 83 e0 f0             and    $0xfffffffffffffff0,%rax


With   __asm__ ("" : "=r" (var) : "0" (var))

ffffffff810038bc:       48 8d 54 24 0f          lea    0xf(%rsp),%rdx
ffffffff810038c1:       48 83 e2 f0             and    $0xfffffffffffffff0,%rdx
ffffffff810038c5:       0f b6 02                movzbl (%rdx),%eax
ffffffff810038c8:       88 02                   mov    %al,(%rdx)


It looks like OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR() is basically just:

	var = var;

In the former case, we avoid the write and retain the allocation. So I
think don't think OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR() should be used here, nor should
OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR() be changed to remove the "0" (var) bit.

-- 
Kees Cook

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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-24 20:32 [PATCH v2 0/5] " Kees Cook
2020-03-24 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] jump_label: Provide CONFIG-driven build state defaults Kees Cook
2020-03-24 22:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-24 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] init_on_alloc: Unpessimize default-on builds Kees Cook
2020-03-26 15:48   ` Alexander Potapenko
2020-03-24 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] stack: Optionally randomize kernel stack offset each syscall Kees Cook
2020-03-30 11:25   ` Mark Rutland
2020-03-30 18:18     ` Kees Cook
2020-03-30 18:27     ` Kees Cook [this message]
2020-03-24 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] x86/entry: Enable random_kstack_offset support Kees Cook
2020-03-28 22:26   ` Kees Cook
2020-03-24 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: entry: " Kees Cook
2020-03-25 13:21   ` Mark Rutland
2020-03-25 20:22     ` Kees Cook
2020-03-26 11:15       ` Mark Rutland
2020-03-26 16:31         ` Kees Cook
2020-03-30 11:26           ` Mark Rutland
2020-04-20 20:54   ` Will Deacon
2020-04-20 22:34     ` Kees Cook
2020-04-21  7:02       ` Will Deacon
2020-03-24 21:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Optionally randomize kernel stack offset each syscall Jann Horn
2020-03-24 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-03-25 12:15     ` Reshetova, Elena
2020-03-25 20:27       ` Kees Cook
2020-03-25 23:20         ` Jann Horn
2020-03-26 17:18           ` Kees Cook

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