From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, John Wood <john.wood@gmx.com>
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Subject: Re: [RESEND][RFC PATCH 0/6] Fork brute force attack mitigation (fbfam)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 22:39:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez0WzMpTqaTgtZwQ9MenCoWuyFn1yRhL9R0+s+=pbonTQA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200910202107.3799376-1-keescook@chromium.org>
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:21 PM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> [kees: re-sending this series on behalf of John Wood <john.wood@gmx.com>
> also visible at https://github.com/johwood/linux fbfam]
[...]
> The goal of this patch serie is to detect and mitigate a fork brute force
> attack.
>
> Attacks with the purpose to break ASLR or bypass canaries traditionaly use
> some level of brute force with the help of the fork system call. This is
> possible since when creating a new process using fork its memory contents
> are the same as those of the parent process (the process that called the
> fork system call). So, the attacker can test the memory infinite times to
> find the correct memory values or the correct memory addresses without
> worrying about crashing the application.
For the next version of this patchset, you may want to clarify that
this is intended to stop brute force attacks *against vulnerable
userspace processes* that fork off worker processes. I was halfway
through the patch series before I realized that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-10 20:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-10 20:21 [RESEND][RFC PATCH 0/6] Fork brute force attack mitigation (fbfam) Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] security/fbfam: Add a Kconfig to enable the fbfam feature Kees Cook
2020-09-10 21:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-17 17:32 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 23:18 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-17 18:40 ` John Wood
2020-09-17 22:05 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-18 14:50 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] security/fbfam: Add the api to manage statistics Kees Cook
2020-09-10 23:23 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] security/fbfam: Use " Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:27 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:33 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-29 23:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-29 23:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-10-03 9:52 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] security/fbfam: Add a new sysctl to control the crashing rate threshold Kees Cook
2020-09-10 23:14 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-13 14:33 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] security/fbfam: Detect a fork brute force attack Kees Cook
2020-09-10 21:10 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-13 17:54 ` John Wood
2020-09-14 19:42 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-15 18:44 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 23:49 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11 0:01 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-13 16:56 ` John Wood
2020-09-14 19:39 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-15 17:36 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] security/fbfam: Mitigate " Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:55 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11 0:20 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-18 16:02 ` John Wood
2020-09-18 21:35 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-19 8:01 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:39 ` Jann Horn [this message]
2020-09-10 23:58 ` [RESEND][RFC PATCH 0/6] Fork brute force attack mitigation (fbfam) Kees Cook
[not found] ` <20200911144806.GA4128@ubuntu>
[not found] ` <202009120053.9FB7F2A7@keescook>
2020-09-12 12:24 ` John Wood
2020-09-12 0:03 ` James Morris
2020-09-12 7:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-12 9:36 ` John Wood
2020-09-12 14:47 ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-12 20:48 ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-13 7:24 ` John Wood
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