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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	kernel-tls-handshake@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/18] nvme-tcp: do not set MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:35:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cce7cbdb-0866-58ec-8bf1-d0eea7ce9fe1@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5df08f86-2599-6e47-2fdc-bda8d70edaf2@grimberg.me>

On 4/17/23 17:28, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> 
>>> nak from me.
>>>
>>>> MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST was introduced with commit 35f9c09fe9c7
>>>> ("tcp: tcp_sendpages() should call tcp_push() once") to fix issues
>>>> with the ->sendfile() call, and the implication seems to be that
>>>> the flag should be strictly internal to sendfile.
>>>
>>> no, the use case was to allow sendpage consumers to build larger
>>> tso packets for large payloads (splice being the primary one), nvme-tcp
>>> also benefits from it (as do others), just like sendfile.
>>>
>>>> Hence we shouldn't be setting it on nvme-tcp, and anyway doing
>>>> so will cause TLS sending invalid data.
>>>
>>> That is something else. I don't recall the full details on the
>>> discussion with Jakub, but it was not my intention to strike
>>> it altogether, just remove it if !sendpage_ok.
>>>
>> But then we're running afoul with tls_sw_do_sendpage(), which uses 
>> MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST as a record indicator. Forwarding 
>> MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST to tls results in incorrect TLS records on the 
>> wire and a transmission stall.
>>
>> Took me days to figure that out.
>>
>> If you have a better idea, I'm all ears.
> 
> So sendfile is unsupported over kTLS? Or is there some special
> case for it in the upper layer?
> 
Dunno. Seems to work, at least according to commit d452d48b9f8b
("tls: prevent oversized sendfile() hangs by ignoring MSG_MORE")

Which is also where I got the notion about sendfile() from.
If MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST is valid for non-sendfile users then
tls_sw_do_sendpage() has a bug.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-17 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-17 13:02 [PATCHv3 00/18] nvme: In-kernel TLS support for TCP Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 01/18] nvme-keyring: register '.nvme' keyring Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 02/18] nvme-keyring: define a 'psk' keytype Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 03/18] nvme: add TCP TSAS definitions Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 04/18] nvme-tcp: add definitions for TLS cipher suites Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 05/18] nvme-keyring: implement nvme_tls_psk_default() Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 06/18] net/tls: implement ->read_sock() Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:14   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 07/18] net/tls: sanitize MSG_EOR handling Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:19   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 20:10     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-18 10:07       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-18 10:24         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-18 10:39           ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-18 10:43             ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-18 11:02               ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-18 18:28                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 08/18] nvme-tcp: do not set MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:10   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 15:25     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:28       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 15:35         ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2023-04-17 20:16         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-18 10:33           ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-18 18:21             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-18 18:25               ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 09/18] security/keys: export key_lookup() Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 10/18] nvme/tcp: allocate socket file Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 11/18] nvme-tcp: enable TLS handshake upcall Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:26   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 15:28     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:31       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 15:36         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-18  5:52   ` Daniel Wagner
2023-04-18  9:38     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-18 10:12       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-18 10:28         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-18 10:32           ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-18 10:33             ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 12/18] nvme-tcp: control message handling for recvmsg() Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:24   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 15:26     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 13/18] nvme-fabrics: parse options 'keyring' and 'tls_key' Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 14/18] nvmet: make TCP sectype settable via configfs Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:02 ` [PATCH 15/18] nvmet-tcp: allocate socket file Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:29   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 13:03 ` [PATCH 16/18] nvmet-tcp: enable TLS handshake upcall Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:03 ` [PATCH 17/18] nvmet-tcp: control messages for recvmsg() Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:03 ` [PATCH 18/18] nvmet-tcp: add configfs attribute 'param_keyring' Hannes Reinecke

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