From: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:12:16 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200705121216.2ce2dd46@canb.auug.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9txOgRYc7RM3fzohB4=Ejcp_xMGLBX_OOCOD=r+W6D678A@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Dave,
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:34:57 +1000 Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 06:45, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 13:02:51 -0700 Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > +The Linux kernel is a global software project, and in 2020 there was a
> > > +global reckoning on race relations that caused many organizations to
> > > +re-evaluate their policies and practices relative to the inclusion of
> > > +people of African descent. This document describes why the 'Naming'
> >
> > I feel a need to point out that racial issues are wider than just
> > people of African descent ... Also, others have pointed out that
> > slavery is not just restricted to those of African descent.
>
> The racial issues are wider than that, and even wider again I'm sure,
> but in 2020 this is as good a place to start as any, and the trigger
> as that sentence says was in 2020, there was a reckoning about it
> mainly due to people of African descent. That trigger has had flow on
> effects in other countries, but I'm not sure that sentence in any way
> diminishes that, it's merely an introduction to why this change is
> happening now.
And reading it again in the (actual) light of day, I see you are right
and I misinterpreted this.
> As for the non-black slavery, others have never pointed this out
(I did not say "non-black")
> before in 30 years of master/slave terminology? surely if white
> slavery was as big a problem, they be as supportive of this, even more
(nor did I say "white slavery")
> so. It speaks volumes that I've never heard white slavery as a problem
> once in 30 years, but now I'm hearing about it a few times, and
> somehow as an excuse not to support this.
I was merely referring to some of the posts in the
users@linux.kernel.org mailing list. Also, I made no statement about
my support (or otherwise) for any of this.
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Cheers,
Stephen Rothwell
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2020-07-04 20:02 [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 23:41 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05 1:10 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05 2:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-06 11:15 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 15:53 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05 2:54 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 20:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 23:34 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 2:12 ` Stephen Rothwell [this message]
2020-07-05 2:56 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 3:23 ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05 3:26 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 21:14 ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:25 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:51 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-04 23:39 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:08 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-05 1:32 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05 17:50 ` opal hart
2020-07-04 23:42 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 7:06 ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06 7:10 ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06 7:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 7:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06 10:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 12:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:59 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:30 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-09 11:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-13 4:25 ` Vinod Koul
2020-07-13 15:55 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-05 0:41 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 4:30 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-10 16:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-05 4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-06 3:13 ` Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06 12:45 ` Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 14:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 15:55 ` Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 16:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 4:17 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 15:22 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:40 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 13:23 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 16:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-07 4:00 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07 5:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 6:49 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 13:37 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:24 ` Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:55 ` Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 6:56 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07 8:54 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 13:41 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 14:45 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 20:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 21:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 12:13 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 18:30 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 23:58 ` Tibor Raschko
[not found] ` <20200709124327.369781a0@coco.lan>
2020-07-09 16:01 ` Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:13 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:32 ` James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 4:04 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 19:15 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07 0:48 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 21:26 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 23:54 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 4:08 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07 9:36 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 21:31 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:10 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:17 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 23:03 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-08 3:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-07 6:56 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-08 7:12 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-08 9:28 ` SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-07 7:51 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-17 8:35 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-26 15:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
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