Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Talking code or talking in code!

From: Matthew Wilcox <willy6545@gmail.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Talking code or talking in code!
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 22:42:34 -0400	[thread overview]
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I'd be interested to know how this compares to Dawn Foster's work that was
presented last year:
https://ossna18.sched.com/event/FAON/kernel-mailing-list-collaboration-dawn-m-foster-the-scale-factory

On Thu., May 30, 2019, 22:15 Theodore Ts'o, <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 04:19:20PM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> > We as a community talk code in emails. Do we talk in code at times? How
> > effective are we in communicating with each other?
> >
> > I would like to propose a topic to explore our communication styles to
> > get a better understanding of how effective we are. I am hoping, we
> > could become more productive, if we get some insight into whether or not
> > we talk in code while we talk code.
> >
> > We could do this by inviting Isabella Ferreira, PhD Student in Computer
> > Engineering, Polytechnique Montréal to tell us about Sentimine,
> > which is a plugin on top of the cregit platform focused on analyzing
> > communication in open source communities. It will include a short survey
> > focused on analyzing a few emails for clarity and perception.
>
> Hi Shuah,
>
> If the goal is to get Isabella's ideas more exposure, perhaps it would
> be better to ask if she would be willing to give a presentation at the
> more open Kernel Summit track during the LPC?
>
> It would appear that it's fairly early days for her work, from doing
> some web searching, the only thing I could really find was her 2019
> Open Source Leadership Summit presentations (slides here[1]) and the
> more formal academic paper[2].
>
> [1]
> https://events.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/OSS_Summit_Presentation.pdf
> [2] http://mcis.polymtl.ca/publications/2019/SEMotion_2019.pdf
>
> As near as I can tell the talk was not video recorded; which is a
> shame, since I wasn't able to pick up from the slide presentation the
> same kind of excitement that you clearly have over her work.  I was
> also very confused about how cregit (which analyzes code) mentioned in
> the last two slides relates to the work described in the first 80% of
> the slide deck, which appears to be analyzing mailing list text.
>
> I'd also think that if the goal is to have a conversation about
> communication styles, having that discussion with a wider circle might
> be more productive.  Or did you have something in mind about some
> decision that might get made at the Maintainer's Summit?
>
>                                     - Ted
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