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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, bristot@redhat.com, bsegall@google.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, greg@kroah.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, joshdon@google.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk, mgorman@suse.de, mingo@kernel.org,
	valentin.schneider@arm.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 11:09:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210427110926.24f41fbb@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210427145925.5246-1-borntraeger@de.ibm.com>

On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:59:25 +0200
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> I just realized that we moved away sysctl tunabled to debugfs in next.
> We have seen several cases where it was benefitial to set
> sched_migration_cost_ns to a lower value. For example with KVM I can
> easily get 50% more transactions with 50000 instead of 500000. 
> Until now it was possible to use tuned or /etc/sysctl.conf to set
> these things permanently. 
> 
> Given that some people do not want to have debugfs mounted all the time
> I would consider this a regression. The sysctl tunable was always 
> available.
> 
> I am ok with the "informational" things being in debugfs, but not
> the tunables. So how do we proceed here?

Should there be a schedfs created?

This is the reason I created the tracefs file system, was to get the
tracing code out of debugfs, as debugfs is a catch all for everything and
can lead to poor and insecure interfaces that people do not want to add on
systems that they still want tracing on.

Or perhaps we should add a "tunefs" for tunables that are stable interfaces
that should not be in /proc but also not in debugfs.

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-27 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210412102001.287610138@infradead.org>
2021-04-27 14:59 ` sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-27 15:09   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2021-04-27 15:17     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  8:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  8:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  8:54     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  8:58       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  9:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  9:31         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  9:42     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28 12:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 14:49         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 12:34         ` [PATCH 0/1] Improve yield (was: sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs) Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 12:34           ` [PATCH 1/1] sched/fair: improve yield_to vs fairness Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 18:07             ` kernel test robot
2021-07-23  9:35             ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-23 12:36               ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-23 16:21                 ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-26 18:41                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-26 19:32                     ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-27  6:59                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-27 18:57                     ` Benjamin Segall
2021-07-28 16:23                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-08-10  8:49                         ` Vincent Guittot
2021-07-27 13:29                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 13:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 14:31                 ` Mel Gorman

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