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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, <cohuck@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] PCI: add matching checks for driver_override binding
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:42:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210614124250.0d32537c.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <117a5e68-d16e-c146-6d37-fcbfe49cb4f8@nvidia.com>

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 11:19:46 +0300
Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On 6/9/2021 4:27 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 19:45:17 -0300
> > Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 03:26:43PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:  
> >>>> drivers that specifically opt into this feature and the driver now has
> >>>> the opportunity to provide a proper match table that indicates what HW
> >>>> it can properly support. vfio-pci continues to support everything.  
> >>> In doing so, this also breaks the new_id method for vfio-pci.  
> >> Does it? How? The driver_override flag is per match entry not for the
> >> entire device so new_id added things will work the same as before as
> >> their new match entry's flags will be zero.  
> > Hmm, that might have been a testing issue; combining driverctl with
> > manual new_id testing might have left a driver_override in place.
> >     
> >>> Sorry, with so many userspace regressions, crippling the
> >>> driver_override interface with an assumption of such a narrow focus,
> >>> creating a vfio specific match flag, I don't see where this can go.
> >>> Thanks,  
> >> On the other hand it overcomes all the objections from the last go
> >> round: how userspace figures out which driver to use with
> >> driver_override and integrating the universal driver into the scheme.
> >>
> >> pci_stub could be delt with by marking it for driver_override like
> >> vfio_pci.  
> > By marking it a "vfio driver override"? :-\
> >  
> >> But driverctl as a general tool working with any module is not really
> >> addressable.
> >>
> >> Is the only issue the blocking of the arbitary binding? That is not a
> >> critical peice of this, IIRC  
> > We can't break userspace, which means new_id and driver_override need
> > to work as they do now.  There are scads of driver binding scripts in
> > the wild, for vfio-pci and other drivers.  We can't assume such a
> > narrow scope.  Thanks,  
> 
> what about the following code ?
> 
> @@ -152,12 +152,28 @@ static const struct pci_device_id 
> *pci_match_device(struct pci_driver *drv,
>          }
>          spin_unlock(&drv->dynids.lock);
> 
> -       if (!found_id)
> -               found_id = pci_match_id(drv->id_table, dev);
> +       if (found_id)
> +               return found_id;

a) A dynamic ID match always works regardless of driver override...

> 
> -       /* driver_override will always match, send a dummy id */
> -       if (!found_id && dev->driver_override)
> +       found_id = pci_match_id(drv->id_table, dev);
> +       if (found_id) {
> +               /*
> +                * if we found id in the static table, we must fulfill the
> +                * matching flags (i.e. if PCI_ID_F_DRIVER_OVERRIDE flag is
> +                * set, driver_override should be provided).
> +                */
> +               bool is_driver_override =
> +                       (found_id->flags & PCI_ID_F_DRIVER_OVERRIDE) != 0;
> +               if ((is_driver_override && !dev->driver_override) ||

b) A static ID match fails if the driver provides an override flag and
the device does not have an override set, or... 

> +                   (dev->driver_override && !is_driver_override))

c) The device has an override set and the driver does not support the
override flag.

> +                       return NULL;
> +       } else if (dev->driver_override) {
> +               /*
> +                * if we didn't find suitable id in the static table,
> +                * driver_override will still , send a dummy id
> +                */
>                  found_id = &pci_device_id_any;
> +       }
> 
>          return found_id;
>   }
> 
> 
> dynamic ids (new_id) works as before.
> 
> Old driver_override works as before.

This is deceptively complicated, but no, I don't believe it does.  By
my understanding of c) an "old" driver can no longer use
driver_override for binding a known device.  It seems that if we have a
static ID match, then we cannot have a driver_override set for the
device in such a case.  This is a userspace regression.

> For "new" driver_override we must fulfill the new rules.

For override'able drivers, the static table is almost useless other
than using it for modules.alias support and potentially to provide
driver_data.  As above, I find this all pretty confusing and I'd advise
trying to write a concise set of rules outlining the behavior of
driver_override vs dynamic IDs vs static IDs vs "override'able" driver
flags.  I tried, I can't, it's convoluted and full of exceptions.
Thanks,

Alex


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-14 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-03 16:07 [RFC PATCH v4 00/11] Introduce vfio-pci-core subsystem Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:07 ` [PATCH 01/11] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci.c to vfio_pci_core.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 02/11] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_private.h to vfio_pci_core.h Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 03/11] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_device to vfio_pci_core_device Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 04/11] vfio-pci: rename ops functions to fit core namings Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 05/11] vfio-pci: include vfio header in vfio_pci_core.h Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 06/11] vfio-pci: introduce vfio_pci.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 07/11] vfio-pci: move igd initialization to vfio_pci.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 08/11] PCI: add flags field to pci_device_id structure Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 09/11] PCI: add matching checks for driver_override binding Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-08 21:26   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-08 22:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09  1:27       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09  9:26         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-13  8:19         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-14  5:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-14  8:18             ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-14 15:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-14 16:01                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 16:15                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-14 16:33                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 18:42           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2021-06-14 23:12             ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-15 15:00               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 15:04                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 16:20                   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 20:42                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 21:59                       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 23:00                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 23:22                           ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 23:32                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16  0:22                               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16  0:34                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16 23:28                                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-16 23:33                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16 23:42                                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-16 23:44                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16 23:51                                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-16 23:56                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-20 14:46                                               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 10/11] vfio-pci: introduce vfio_pci_core subsystem driver Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-08 21:26   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09  9:29     ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 11/11] mlx5-vfio-pci: add new vfio_pci driver for mlx5 devices Max Gurtovoy
2021-07-30  7:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 00/11] Introduce vfio-pci-core subsystem Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-07-30 11:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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