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From: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 29/40] x86/compressed/64: add support for SEV-SNP CPUID table in #VC handlers
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 11:20:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220118172043.djhy3dwg4fhhfqfs@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YebsKcpnYzvjaEjs@zn.tnic>

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 05:34:49PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 08:37:30AM -0600, Michael Roth wrote:
> > Actually, no, because doing that would provide hypervisor a means to
> > effectively disable CPUID page for an SNP guest by provided a table with
> > count == 0, which needs to be guarded against.
> 
> Err, I'm confused.
> 
> Isn't that "SEV-SNP guests will be provided the location of special
> 'secrets' 'CPUID' pages via the Confidential Computing blob..." and the
> HV has no say in there?
> 
> Why does the HV provide the CPUID page?

The HV fills out the initial contents of the CPUID page, which includes
the count. SNP/PSP firmware will validate the contents the HV tries to put
in the initial page, but does not currently enforce that the 'count' field
is non-zero. So we can't rely on the 'count' field as an indicator of
whether or not the CPUID page is active, we need to rely on the presence
of the ccblob as the true indicator, then treat a non-zero 'count' field
as an invalid state.

I think we discussed this to some extent in the past. The following
document was added to clarify the security model for CPUID page:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20211210154332.11526-29-brijesh.singh@amd.com/

> 
> And when I read "secrets page" I think, encrypted/signed and given
> directly to the guest, past the HV which cannot even touch it.

The CPUID page is also encrypted, but its initial contents come from the
HV, which are then passed through the PSP for initial validation before
being placed in the CPUID page. But the count==0 case is not disallowed
by the PSP firmware, so can't be relied upon as a means to indicate that
the CPUID page is not active.

> 
> Hmmm.
> 
> -- 
> Regards/Gruss,
>     Boris.
> 
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Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-10 15:42 [PATCH v8 00/40] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Guest Support Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 01/40] x86/compressed/64: detect/setup SEV/SME features earlier in boot Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 18:47   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 19:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 19:23     ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 19:33       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-13 19:09   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-13 19:17     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 17:46       ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-14 19:10         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15  0:14           ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 11:57             ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 14:43             ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-15 17:49               ` Michael Roth
2021-12-15 18:17                 ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 18:33                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 20:17                     ` Michael Roth
2021-12-15 20:38                       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 21:22                         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-03 19:10                           ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-05 19:34                             ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-10 20:46                               ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-10 21:17                                 ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-10 21:38                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 20:43                   ` Michael Roth
2021-12-15 19:54                 ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 18:58               ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 17:51             ` Michael Roth
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 02/40] x86/sev: " Brijesh Singh
2021-12-13 22:36   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 03/40] x86/mm: Extend cc_attr to include AMD SEV-SNP Brijesh Singh
2021-12-13 22:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-14 15:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 04/40] x86/sev: Define the Linux specific guest termination reasons Brijesh Singh
2021-12-14  0:13   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-14 22:22   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 05/40] x86/sev: Save the negotiated GHCB version Brijesh Singh
2021-12-14  0:32   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 06/40] x86/sev: Check SEV-SNP features support Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 15:47   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-16 16:28     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 16:58       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-16 19:01   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 07/40] x86/sev: Add a helper for the PVALIDATE instruction Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 20:20   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 08/40] x86/sev: Check the vmpl level Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 20:24   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-16 23:39     ` Mikolaj Lisik
2021-12-17 22:19       ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-17 22:33         ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-20 18:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 15:23             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 09/40] x86/compressed: Add helper for validating pages in the decompression stage Brijesh Singh
2021-12-17 20:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-17 23:24     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 18:43       ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-21 13:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 10/40] x86/compressed: Register GHCB memory when SEV-SNP is active Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 19:54   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 11/40] x86/sev: " Brijesh Singh
2021-12-22 13:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-22 15:16     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 22:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 12/40] x86/sev: Add helper for validating pages in early enc attribute changes Brijesh Singh
2021-12-23 11:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 15:33     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 23:28   ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-11 21:22     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-11 21:51       ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-11 21:57         ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-11 22:42           ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 13/40] x86/kernel: Make the bss.decrypted section shared in RMP table Brijesh Singh
2021-12-28 11:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 17:56   ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-05 19:52     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-05 20:27       ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-05 21:39         ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 17:40           ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-06 19:06             ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-06 20:16               ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-06 20:50                 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 14/40] x86/kernel: Validate rom memory before accessing when SEV-SNP is active Brijesh Singh
2021-12-28 15:40   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 15/40] x86/mm: Add support to validate memory when changing C-bit Brijesh Singh
2021-12-29 11:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 22:31   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 16/40] KVM: SVM: Define sev_features and vmpl field in the VMSA Brijesh Singh
2022-01-04 22:59   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 17/40] KVM: SVM: Create a separate mapping for the SEV-ES save area Brijesh Singh
2021-12-30 12:19   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-05  1:38   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 18/40] KVM: SVM: Create a separate mapping for the GHCB " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-05 18:41   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 19/40] KVM: SVM: Update the SEV-ES save area mapping Brijesh Singh
2022-01-05 18:54   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 20/40] x86/sev: Use SEV-SNP AP creation to start secondary CPUs Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 18:50   ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-12 16:17     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-31 15:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-03 18:10     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-12 16:33     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-12 17:10       ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-13 12:23         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-13 12:21       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 21/40] x86/head: re-enable stack protection for 32/64-bit builds Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 16:49   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 22/40] x86/sev: move MSR-based VMGEXITs for CPUID to helper Brijesh Singh
2021-12-30 18:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-04 20:57     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 23:36     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-06 18:38   ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-06 20:21     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-06 20:36       ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 23/40] KVM: x86: move lookup of indexed CPUID leafs " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 18:46   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 24/40] x86/compressed/acpi: move EFI system table lookup " Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 18:54   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 15:47     ` Michael Roth
2021-12-13 16:21       ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 18:00         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-11  8:59       ` Chao Fan
2022-01-05 23:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-06 19:59   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 25/40] x86/compressed/acpi: move EFI config " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 20:33   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 26/40] x86/compressed/acpi: move EFI vendor " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 20:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 27/40] x86/boot: Add Confidential Computing type to setup_data Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 19:12   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 20:18     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 20:30       ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 14:49         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-13 15:08           ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 15:55             ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-07 11:54             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-06 22:48   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 28/40] KVM: SEV: Add documentation for SEV-SNP CPUID Enforcement Brijesh Singh
2022-01-07 13:22   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 29/40] x86/compressed/64: add support for SEV-SNP CPUID table in #VC handlers Brijesh Singh
2022-01-13 13:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-13 16:39     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-14 16:13       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18  4:35         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 14:02           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18 14:23             ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 14:32               ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 14:37                 ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 16:34                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18 17:20                     ` Michael Roth [this message]
2022-01-18 17:41                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18 18:49                         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-19  1:18                           ` Michael Roth
2022-01-19 11:17                             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-19 16:27                               ` Michael Roth
2022-01-27 17:23                                 ` Michael Roth
2022-01-28 22:58                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 30/40] x86/boot: add a pointer to Confidential Computing blob in bootparams Brijesh Singh
2022-01-17 18:14   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 31/40] x86/compressed: add SEV-SNP feature detection/setup Brijesh Singh
2022-01-19 12:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 32/40] x86/compressed: use firmware-validated CPUID for SEV-SNP guests Brijesh Singh
2022-01-20 12:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 33/40] x86/compressed/64: add identity mapping for Confidential Computing blob Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 19:52   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 17:54     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-25 13:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 34/40] x86/sev: add SEV-SNP feature detection/setup Brijesh Singh
2022-01-25 18:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 35/40] x86/sev: use firmware-validated CPUID for SEV-SNP guests Brijesh Singh
2022-01-26 18:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 36/40] x86/sev: Provide support for SNP guest request NAEs Brijesh Singh
2022-01-27 16:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-27 17:02     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-29 10:27       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-29 11:49         ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-29 12:02           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 37/40] x86/sev: Register SNP guest request platform device Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 38/40] virt: Add SEV-SNP guest driver Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 39/40] virt: sevguest: Add support to derive key Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 22:27   ` Liam Merwick
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 40/40] virt: sevguest: Add support to get extended report Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 20:17 ` [PATCH v8 00/40] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Guest Support Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 20:20   ` Brijesh Singh

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