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From: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 29/40] x86/compressed/64: add support for SEV-SNP CPUID table in #VC handlers
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:18:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220119011806.av5rtxfv4et2sfkl@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220118184930.nnwbgrfr723qabnq@amd.com>

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:49:30PM -0600, Michael Roth wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 06:41:16PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:20:43AM -0600, Michael Roth wrote:
> > > The HV fills out the initial contents of the CPUID page, which includes
> > > the count. SNP/PSP firmware will validate the contents the HV tries to put
> > > in the initial page, but does not currently enforce that the 'count' field
> > > is non-zero.
> > 
> > And regardless, what if the HV fakes the count - how do you figure out
> > what the proper count is? You go and read the whole CPUID page and try
> > to make sense of what's there, even beyond the "last" function leaf.
> 
> 

<snip>

> > 
> > But see above, how do you check whether the HV hasn't "hidden" some
> > entries by modifying the count field?
> > 
> > Either I'm missing something or this sounds really weird...
> 
> ...count must match the actual number of entries in the table in all
> cases.

Turns out in my testing earlier there was a separate check that was
causing the PSP to fail, so I re-tested the behavior, and things are
actually a bit more interesting, but nothing too concerning:

If 'fake_count'/'reported_count' is greater than the actual number of
entries in the table, 'actual_count', then all table entries up to
'fake_count' will also need to pass validation. Generally the table
will be zero'd out initially, so those additional/bogus entries will
be interpreted as a CPUID leaves where all fields are 0. Unfortunately,
that's still considered a valid leaf, even if it's a duplicate of the
*actual* 0x0 leaf present earlier in the table. The current code will
handle this fine, since it scans the table in order, and uses the
valid 0x0 leaf earlier in the table.

This is isn't really a special case though, it falls under the general
category of a hypervisor inserting garbage entries that happen to pass
validation, but don't reflect values that a guest would normally see.
This will be detectable as part of guest owner attestation, since the
guest code is careful to guarantee that the values seen after boot,
once the attestation stage is reached, will be identical to the values
seen during boot, so if this sort of manipulation of CPUID values
occurred, the guest owner will notice this during attestation, and can
abort the boot at that point. The Documentation patch addresses this
in more detail.

If 'fake_count' is less than 'actual_count', then the PSP skips
validation for anything >= 'fake_count', and leaves them in the table.
That should also be fine though, since guest code should never exceed
'fake_count'/'reported_count', as that's a blatant violation of the
spec, and it doesn't make any sense for a guest to do this. This will
effectively 'hide' entries, but those resulting missing CPUID leaves
will be noticeable to the guest owner once attestation phase is
reached.

This does all highlight the need for some very thorough guidelines
on how a guest owner should implement their attestation checks for
cpuid, however. I think a section in the reference implementation
notes/document that covers this would be a good starting point. I'll
also check with the PSP team on tightening up some of these CPUID
page checks to rule out some of these possibilities in the future.

> in the table. count==0 is only special in that code might erroneously
> decide to treat it as an indicator that cpuid table isn't enabled at
> all, but since that case causes termination it should actually be ok.
> 
> Though I wonder if we should do something like this to still keep
> callers from relying on checking count==0 directly:
> 
>   static const struct snp_cpuid_info *
>   snp_cpuid_info_get_ptr(void)
>   {
>           const struct snp_cpuid_info *cpuid_info;
>           void *ptr;
>   
>           /*
>            * This may be called early while still running on the initial identity
>            * mapping. Use RIP-relative addressing to obtain the correct address
>            * in both for identity mapping and after switch-over to kernel virtual
>            * addresses.
>            */
>           asm ("lea cpuid_info_copy(%%rip), %0"
>                : "=r" (ptr)
>                : "p" (&cpuid_info_copy));
>   
>           cpuid_info = ptr;
>           if (cpuid_info->count == 0)
>                   return NULL
>   
>           return cpuid_info;
>   }

Nevermind, that doesn't work since snp_cpuid_info_get_ptr() is also called
by snp_cpuid_info_get_ptr() *prior* to initializing the table, so it ends
seeing cpuid->count==0 and fails right away. So your initial suggestion
of checking cpuid->count==0 at the call-sites to determine if the table
is enabled is probably the best option.

Sorry for the noise/confusion.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-10 15:42 [PATCH v8 00/40] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Guest Support Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 01/40] x86/compressed/64: detect/setup SEV/SME features earlier in boot Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 18:47   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 19:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 19:23     ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 19:33       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-13 19:09   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-13 19:17     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 17:46       ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-14 19:10         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15  0:14           ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 11:57             ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 14:43             ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-15 17:49               ` Michael Roth
2021-12-15 18:17                 ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 18:33                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 20:17                     ` Michael Roth
2021-12-15 20:38                       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 21:22                         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-03 19:10                           ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-05 19:34                             ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-10 20:46                               ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-10 21:17                                 ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-10 21:38                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-15 20:43                   ` Michael Roth
2021-12-15 19:54                 ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 18:58               ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-15 17:51             ` Michael Roth
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 02/40] x86/sev: " Brijesh Singh
2021-12-13 22:36   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 03/40] x86/mm: Extend cc_attr to include AMD SEV-SNP Brijesh Singh
2021-12-13 22:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-14 15:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 04/40] x86/sev: Define the Linux specific guest termination reasons Brijesh Singh
2021-12-14  0:13   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-14 22:22   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 05/40] x86/sev: Save the negotiated GHCB version Brijesh Singh
2021-12-14  0:32   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 06/40] x86/sev: Check SEV-SNP features support Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 15:47   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-16 16:28     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 16:58       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-16 19:01   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:42 ` [PATCH v8 07/40] x86/sev: Add a helper for the PVALIDATE instruction Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 20:20   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 08/40] x86/sev: Check the vmpl level Brijesh Singh
2021-12-16 20:24   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-16 23:39     ` Mikolaj Lisik
2021-12-17 22:19       ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-17 22:33         ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-20 18:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 15:23             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 09/40] x86/compressed: Add helper for validating pages in the decompression stage Brijesh Singh
2021-12-17 20:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-17 23:24     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 18:43       ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-21 13:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 10/40] x86/compressed: Register GHCB memory when SEV-SNP is active Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 19:54   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 11/40] x86/sev: " Brijesh Singh
2021-12-22 13:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-22 15:16     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 22:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 12/40] x86/sev: Add helper for validating pages in early enc attribute changes Brijesh Singh
2021-12-23 11:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 15:33     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 23:28   ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-11 21:22     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-11 21:51       ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-11 21:57         ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-11 22:42           ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 13/40] x86/kernel: Make the bss.decrypted section shared in RMP table Brijesh Singh
2021-12-28 11:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 17:56   ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-05 19:52     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-05 20:27       ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-05 21:39         ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 17:40           ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-06 19:06             ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-06 20:16               ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-06 20:50                 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 14/40] x86/kernel: Validate rom memory before accessing when SEV-SNP is active Brijesh Singh
2021-12-28 15:40   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 15/40] x86/mm: Add support to validate memory when changing C-bit Brijesh Singh
2021-12-29 11:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 22:31   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 16/40] KVM: SVM: Define sev_features and vmpl field in the VMSA Brijesh Singh
2022-01-04 22:59   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 17/40] KVM: SVM: Create a separate mapping for the SEV-ES save area Brijesh Singh
2021-12-30 12:19   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-05  1:38   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 18/40] KVM: SVM: Create a separate mapping for the GHCB " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-05 18:41   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 19/40] KVM: SVM: Update the SEV-ES save area mapping Brijesh Singh
2022-01-05 18:54   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 20/40] x86/sev: Use SEV-SNP AP creation to start secondary CPUs Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 18:50   ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-12 16:17     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-31 15:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-03 18:10     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-12 16:33     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-12 17:10       ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-13 12:23         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-13 12:21       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 21/40] x86/head: re-enable stack protection for 32/64-bit builds Brijesh Singh
2022-01-03 16:49   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 22/40] x86/sev: move MSR-based VMGEXITs for CPUID to helper Brijesh Singh
2021-12-30 18:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-04 20:57     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-04 23:36     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-06 18:38   ` Venu Busireddy
2022-01-06 20:21     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-06 20:36       ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 23/40] KVM: x86: move lookup of indexed CPUID leafs " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 18:46   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 24/40] x86/compressed/acpi: move EFI system table lookup " Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 18:54   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 15:47     ` Michael Roth
2021-12-13 16:21       ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 18:00         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-11  8:59       ` Chao Fan
2022-01-05 23:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-06 19:59   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 25/40] x86/compressed/acpi: move EFI config " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 20:33   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 26/40] x86/compressed/acpi: move EFI vendor " Brijesh Singh
2022-01-06 20:47   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 27/40] x86/boot: Add Confidential Computing type to setup_data Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 19:12   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 20:18     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 20:30       ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 14:49         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-12-13 15:08           ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 15:55             ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-07 11:54             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-06 22:48   ` Venu Busireddy
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 28/40] KVM: SEV: Add documentation for SEV-SNP CPUID Enforcement Brijesh Singh
2022-01-07 13:22   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 29/40] x86/compressed/64: add support for SEV-SNP CPUID table in #VC handlers Brijesh Singh
2022-01-13 13:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-13 16:39     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-14 16:13       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18  4:35         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 14:02           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18 14:23             ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 14:32               ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 14:37                 ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 16:34                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18 17:20                     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-18 17:41                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-18 18:49                         ` Michael Roth
2022-01-19  1:18                           ` Michael Roth [this message]
2022-01-19 11:17                             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-19 16:27                               ` Michael Roth
2022-01-27 17:23                                 ` Michael Roth
2022-01-28 22:58                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 30/40] x86/boot: add a pointer to Confidential Computing blob in bootparams Brijesh Singh
2022-01-17 18:14   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 31/40] x86/compressed: add SEV-SNP feature detection/setup Brijesh Singh
2022-01-19 12:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 32/40] x86/compressed: use firmware-validated CPUID for SEV-SNP guests Brijesh Singh
2022-01-20 12:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 33/40] x86/compressed/64: add identity mapping for Confidential Computing blob Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 19:52   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-13 17:54     ` Michael Roth
2022-01-25 13:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 34/40] x86/sev: add SEV-SNP feature detection/setup Brijesh Singh
2022-01-25 18:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 35/40] x86/sev: use firmware-validated CPUID for SEV-SNP guests Brijesh Singh
2022-01-26 18:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 36/40] x86/sev: Provide support for SNP guest request NAEs Brijesh Singh
2022-01-27 16:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-27 17:02     ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-29 10:27       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-29 11:49         ` Brijesh Singh
2022-01-29 12:02           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 37/40] x86/sev: Register SNP guest request platform device Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 38/40] virt: Add SEV-SNP guest driver Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 39/40] virt: sevguest: Add support to derive key Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 22:27   ` Liam Merwick
2021-12-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v8 40/40] virt: sevguest: Add support to get extended report Brijesh Singh
2021-12-10 20:17 ` [PATCH v8 00/40] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Guest Support Dave Hansen
2021-12-10 20:20   ` Brijesh Singh

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