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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Shameerali Kolothum Thodi  <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Keqian Zhu <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 04/12] kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:15:21 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220322161521.GJ11336@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220322092923.5bc79861.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 09:29:23AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:

> I'm still picking my way through the series, but the later compat
> interface doesn't mention this difference as an outstanding issue.
> Doesn't this difference need to be accounted in how libvirt manages VM
> resource limits?  

AFACIT, no, but it should be checked.

> AIUI libvirt uses some form of prlimit(2) to set process locked
> memory limits.

Yes, and ulimit does work fully. prlimit adjusts the value:

int do_prlimit(struct task_struct *tsk, unsigned int resource,
		struct rlimit *new_rlim, struct rlimit *old_rlim)
{
	rlim = tsk->signal->rlim + resource;
[..]
		if (new_rlim)
			*rlim = *new_rlim;

Which vfio reads back here:

drivers/vfio/vfio_iommu_type1.c:        unsigned long pfn, limit = rlimit(RLIMIT_MEMLOCK) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
drivers/vfio/vfio_iommu_type1.c:        unsigned long limit = rlimit(RLIMIT_MEMLOCK) >> PAGE_SHIFT;

And iommufd does the same read back:

	lock_limit =
		task_rlimit(pages->source_task, RLIMIT_MEMLOCK) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
	npages = pages->npinned - pages->last_npinned;
	do {
		cur_pages = atomic_long_read(&pages->source_user->locked_vm);
		new_pages = cur_pages + npages;
		if (new_pages > lock_limit)
			return -ENOMEM;
	} while (atomic_long_cmpxchg(&pages->source_user->locked_vm, cur_pages,
				     new_pages) != cur_pages);

So it does work essentially the same.

The difference is more subtle, iouring/etc puts the charge in the user
so it is additive with things like iouring and additively spans all
the users processes.

However vfio is accounting only per-process and only for itself - no
other subsystem uses locked as the charge variable for DMA pins.

The user visible difference will be that a limit X that worked with
VFIO may start to fail after a kernel upgrade as the charge accounting
is now cross user and additive with things like iommufd.

This whole area is a bit peculiar (eg mlock itself works differently),
IMHO, but with most of the places doing pins voting to use
user->locked_vm as the charge it seems the right path in today's
kernel.

Ceratinly having qemu concurrently using three different subsystems
(vfio, rdma, iouring) issuing FOLL_LONGTERM and all accounting for
RLIMIT_MEMLOCK differently cannot be sane or correct.

I plan to fix RDMA like this as well so at least we can have
consistency within qemu.

Thanks,
Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-22 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-18 17:27 [PATCH RFC 00/12] IOMMUFD Generic interface Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 01/12] interval-tree: Add a utility to iterate over spans in an interval tree Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 02/12] iommufd: Overview documentation Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 03/12] iommufd: File descriptor, context, kconfig and makefiles Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-22 14:18   ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-03-22 14:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 04/12] kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-22 14:28   ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-03-22 14:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-22 15:29       ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-22 16:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-03-24  2:11           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-24  2:27             ` Jason Wang
2022-03-24  2:42               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-24  2:57                 ` Jason Wang
2022-03-24  3:15                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-24  3:50                     ` Jason Wang
2022-03-24  4:29                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-24 11:46                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-28  1:53                         ` Jason Wang
2022-03-28 12:22                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-29  4:59                             ` Jason Wang
2022-03-29 11:46                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-28 13:14                           ` Sean Mooney
2022-03-28 14:27                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-24 20:40           ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-24 22:27             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-24 22:41               ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-22 16:31       ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-03-22 16:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 05/12] iommufd: PFN handling for iopt_pages Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-23 15:37   ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-03-23 16:09     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 06/12] iommufd: Algorithms for PFN storage Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 07/12] iommufd: Data structure to provide IOVA to PFN mapping Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-22 22:15   ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-23 18:15     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-24  3:09       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-24 12:46         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-25 13:34   ` zhangfei.gao
2022-03-25 17:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-13 14:02   ` Yi Liu
2022-04-13 14:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-13 14:49       ` Yi Liu
2022-04-17 14:56         ` Yi Liu
2022-04-18 10:47           ` Yi Liu
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 08/12] iommufd: IOCTLs for the io_pagetable Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-23 19:10   ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-23 19:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-23 20:04       ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-23 20:34         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-23 22:54           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-24  7:25             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-24 13:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-25  2:15                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-27  2:32                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-27 14:28                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-28 17:17                 ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-28 18:57                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-28 19:47                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-28 21:26                       ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-24  6:46           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 13:35   ` Yi Liu
2022-03-31 12:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-01 13:30       ` Yi Liu
2022-03-31  4:36   ` David Gibson
2022-03-31  5:41     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-31 12:58     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-28  5:58       ` David Gibson
2022-04-28 14:22         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29  6:00           ` David Gibson
2022-04-29 12:54             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-30 14:44               ` David Gibson
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 09/12] iommufd: Add a HW pagetable object Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 10/12] iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-23 18:10   ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-23 18:15     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11 12:54   ` Yi Liu
2022-05-19  9:45   ` Yi Liu
2022-05-19 12:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 11/12] iommufd: vfio container FD ioctl compatibility Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-23 22:51   ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-24  0:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-24  8:13       ` Eric Auger
2022-03-24 22:04       ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-24 23:11         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-25  3:10           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-25 11:24           ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 14:53         ` David Gibson
2022-04-28 15:10           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29  1:21             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-29  6:22               ` David Gibson
2022-04-29 12:50                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-02  4:10                   ` David Gibson
2022-04-29  6:20             ` David Gibson
2022-04-29 12:48               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-02  7:30                 ` David Gibson
2022-05-05 19:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-06  5:25                     ` David Gibson
2022-05-06 10:42                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-09  3:36                         ` David Gibson
2022-05-06 12:48                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-09  6:01                         ` David Gibson
2022-05-09 14:00                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-10  7:12                             ` David Gibson
2022-05-10 19:00                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11  3:15                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-11 16:32                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11 23:23                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-13  4:35                                   ` David Gibson
2022-05-11  4:40                                 ` David Gibson
2022-05-11  2:46                             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-23  6:02           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2022-05-24 13:25             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-25  1:39               ` David Gibson
2022-05-25  2:09               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2022-03-29  9:17     ` Yi Liu
2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 12/12] iommufd: Add a selftest Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-12 20:13 ` [PATCH RFC 00/12] IOMMUFD Generic interface Eric Auger
2022-04-12 20:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-12 20:50     ` Eric Auger
2022-04-14 10:56 ` Yi Liu

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