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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 05/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton to enable TDX on demand
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 08:48:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c4a28c8-f17d-7395-cc63-3cbd9b31befb@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a62497059fc3f31706a532b822d6c966bd981468.camel@intel.com>

On 3/13/23 18:50, Huang, Kai wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-03-13 at 16:49 -0700, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 11:08:44PM +0000,
>> "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2023-03-08 at 14:27 -0800, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +static int try_init_module_global(void)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +       int ret;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       /*
>>>>> +        * The TDX module global initialization only needs to be done
>>>>> +        * once on any cpu.
>>>>> +        */
>>>>> +       spin_lock(&tdx_global_init_lock);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       if (tdx_global_init_status & TDX_GLOBAL_INIT_DONE) {
>>>>> +               ret = tdx_global_init_status & TDX_GLOBAL_INIT_FAILED ?
>>>>> +                       -EINVAL : 0;
>>>>> +               goto out;
>>>>> +       }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       /* All '0's are just unused parameters. */
>>>>> +       ret = seamcall(TDH_SYS_INIT, 0, 0, 0, 0, NULL, NULL);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       tdx_global_init_status = TDX_GLOBAL_INIT_DONE;
>>>>> +       if (ret)
>>>>> +               tdx_global_init_status |= TDX_GLOBAL_INIT_FAILED;
>>>>
>>>> If entropy is lacking (rdrand failure), TDH_SYS_INIT can return TDX_SYS_BUSY.
>>>> In such case, we should allow the caller to retry or make this function retry
>>>> instead of marking error stickily.
>>>
>>> The spec says:
>>>
>>> TDX_SYS_BUSY        The operation was invoked when another TDX module
>>>             operation was in progress. The operation may be retried.
>>>
>>> So I don't see how entropy is lacking is related to this error.  Perhaps you
>>> were mixing up with KEY.CONFIG?
>>
>> TDH.SYS.INIT() initializes global canary value.  TDX module is compiled with
>> strong stack protector enabled by clang and canary value needs to be
>> initialized.  By default, the canary value is stored at
>> %fsbase:<STACK_CANARY_OFFSET 0x28>
>>
>> Although this is a job for libc or language runtime, TDX modules has to do it
>> itself because it's stand alone.
>>
>> From tdh_sys_init.c
>> _STATIC_INLINE_ api_error_type tdx_init_stack_canary(void)
>> {
>>     ia32_rflags_t rflags = {.raw = 0};
>>     uint64_t canary;
>>     if (!ia32_rdrand(&rflags, &canary))
>>     {
>>         return TDX_SYS_BUSY;
>>     }
>> ...
>>     last_page_ptr->stack_canary.canary = canary;
>>
>>
> 
> Then it is a hidden behaviour of the TDX module that is not reflected in the
> spec.

This is true.  Could you please go ask the TDX module folks to fix this up?

> I am not sure whether we should handle because:
> 
> 1) This is an extremely rare case.  Kernel would be basically under attack if
> such error happened.  In the current series we don't handle such case in
> KEY.CONFIG either but just leave a comment (see patch 13).

Rare, yes.  Under attack?  I'm not sure where you get that from.  Look
at the SDM:

> Under heavy load, with multiple cores executing RDRAND in parallel, it is possible, though unlikely, for the demand
> of random numbers by software processes/threads to exceed the rate at which the random number generator
> hardware can supply them. This will lead to the RDRAND instruction returning no data transitorily. The RDRAND
> instruction indicates the occurrence of this rare situation by clearing the CF flag.

That doesn't talk about attacks.

> 2) Not sure whether this will be changed in the future.
> 
> So I think we should keep as is.

TDX_SYS_BUSY really is missing some nuance.  You *REALLY* want to retry
RDRAND failures.  But, if you have VMM locking and don't expect two
users calling into the TDX module then TDX_SYS_BUSY from a busy *module*
is a bad (and probably fatal) signal.

I suspect we should just throw a few retries in the seamcall()
infrastructure to retry in the case of TDX_SYS_BUSY.  It'll take care of
RDRAND failures.  If a retry loop fails to resolve it, then we should
probably dump a warning and return an error.

Just do this once, in common code.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-14 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06 14:13 [PATCH v10 00/16] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 01/16] x86/tdx: Define TDX supported page sizes as macros Kai Huang
2023-03-16 12:37   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-16 22:41     ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 02/16] x86/virt/tdx: Detect TDX during kernel boot Kai Huang
2023-03-16 12:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-16 22:37     ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-23 17:02       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-23 22:15         ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 03/16] x86/virt/tdx: Make INTEL_TDX_HOST depend on X86_X2APIC Kai Huang
2023-03-16 12:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 04/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL infrastructure Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 05/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton to enable TDX on demand Kai Huang
2023-03-08 22:27   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-12 23:08     ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-13 23:49       ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-14  1:50         ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-14  4:02           ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-14  5:45             ` Dave Hansen
2023-03-14 17:16               ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-14 17:38                 ` Dave Hansen
2023-03-14 15:48           ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-03-15 11:10             ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-16 22:07               ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-23 13:49               ` Dave Hansen
2023-03-23 22:09                 ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-23 22:12                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-03-23 22:42                     ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-16  0:31   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-16  2:45     ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-16  2:52       ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 06/16] x86/virt/tdx: Get information about TDX module and TDX-capable memory Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 07/16] x86/virt/tdx: Use all system memory when initializing TDX module as TDX memory Kai Huang
2023-03-09  1:38   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 08/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add placeholder to construct TDMRs to cover all TDX memory regions Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 09/16] x86/virt/tdx: Fill out " Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 10/16] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs Kai Huang
2023-03-21  7:44   ` Dong, Eddie
2023-03-21  8:05     ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 11/16] x86/virt/tdx: Designate reserved areas for all TDMRs Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 12/16] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX module with the TDMRs and global KeyID Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 13/16] x86/virt/tdx: Configure global KeyID on all packages Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 14/16] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize all TDMRs Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:14 ` [PATCH v10 15/16] x86/virt/tdx: Flush cache in kexec() when TDX is enabled Kai Huang
2023-03-06 14:14 ` [PATCH v10 16/16] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX host support Kai Huang
2023-03-08  1:11 ` [PATCH v10 00/16] TDX host kernel support Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-16 12:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-16 22:06   ` Huang, Kai

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