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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Li RongQing <lirongqing@baidu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] Revert "KVM: SVM: Introduce hybrid-AVIC mode"
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:45:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84c2e836d6ba4eae9fa20329bcbc1d19f8134b0f.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17e776dccf01e03bce1356beb8db0741e2a13d9a.camel@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 08:59 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 00:34 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Remove SVM's so called "hybrid-AVIC mode" and reinstate the restriction
> > where AVIC is disabled if x2APIC is enabled.  The argument that the
> > "guest is not supposed to access xAPIC mmio when uses x2APIC" is flat out
> > wrong.  Activating x2APIC completely disables the xAPIC MMIO region,
> > there is nothing that says the guest must not access that address.
> > 
> > Concretely, KVM-Unit-Test's existing "apic" test fails the subtests that
> > expect accesses to the APIC base region to not be emulated when x2APIC is
> > enabled.
> > 
> > Furthermore, allowing the guest to trigger MMIO emulation in a mode where
> > KVM doesn't expect such emulation to occur is all kinds of dangerous.

Also, unless I misunderstood you, the above statement is wrong.

Leaving AVIC on, when vCPU is in x2apic mode cannot trigger extra MMIO emulation,
in fact the opposite - because AVIC is on, writes to 0xFEE00xxx might *not* trigger
MMIO emulation and instead be emulated by AVIC.

Yes, some of these writes can trigger AVIC specific emulation vm exits, but they
are literaly the same as those used by x2avic, and it is really hard to see
why this would be dangerous (assuming that x2avic code works, and avic code
is aware of this 'hybrid' mode).

From the guest point of view, unless the guest pokes at random MMIO area,
the only case when this matters is if the guest maps RAM over the 0xFEE00xxx
(which it of course can, the spec explictly state as you say that when x2apic
is enabled, the mmio is disabled), and then instead of functioning as RAM,
the range will still function as APIC.

However after *our hack* that we did to avoid removing the APIC private memslot,
regardless of APIC inhibit, userspace likely can't even place RAM memslot over the area, regarless
if x2apic is enabled or not, because it will overlap over our private memslot.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky

> > 
> > Tweak the restriction so that it only inhibits AVIC if x2APIC is actually
> > enabled instead of inhibiting AVIC is x2APIC is exposed to the guest.
> > 
> > This reverts commit 0e311d33bfbef86da130674e8528cc23e6acfe16.
> 
> I don't agree with this patch.
> 
> When reviewing this code I did note that MMIO is left enabled which is kind of errata on KVM
> side, and nobody objected to this.
> 
> Keeping AVIC enabled allows to have performance benefits with guests that have to use x2apic
> (e.g after migration, or OS requirements) - aside from emulated msr access they get all the
> AVIC benefits like doorbell, IOMMU posted interrupts, etc.
> 
> What we should do, and I even suggested doing it 
> (and what I somewhat assumed that you will ask when the patch was in review),
> is to disable the AVIC mmio hole when one of the guest vCPUs is in x2apic mode
> which can be done by disabling our APIC private memslot.
> 
> Best regards,
> 	Maxim Levitsky
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h |  6 ++++++
> >  arch/x86/kvm/svm/avic.c         | 21 ++++++++++-----------
> >  2 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > index 2c96c43c313a..1f51411f3112 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > @@ -1128,6 +1128,12 @@ enum kvm_apicv_inhibit {
> >  	 */
> >  	APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_PIT_REINJ,
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * AVIC is inhibited because the vCPU has x2apic enabled and x2AVIC is
> > +	 * not supported.
> > +	 */
> > +	APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_X2APIC,
> > +
> >  	/*
> >  	 * AVIC is disabled because SEV doesn't support it.
> >  	 */
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/avic.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/avic.c
> > index f3a74c8284cb..1d516d658f9a 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/avic.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/avic.c
> > @@ -71,22 +71,12 @@ static void avic_activate_vmcb(struct vcpu_svm *svm)
> >  	vmcb->control.avic_physical_id &= ~AVIC_PHYSICAL_MAX_INDEX_MASK;
> >  
> >  	vmcb->control.int_ctl |= AVIC_ENABLE_MASK;
> > -
> > -	/* Note:
> > -	 * KVM can support hybrid-AVIC mode, where KVM emulates x2APIC
> > -	 * MSR accesses, while interrupt injection to a running vCPU
> > -	 * can be achieved using AVIC doorbell. The AVIC hardware still
> > -	 * accelerate MMIO accesses, but this does not cause any harm
> > -	 * as the guest is not supposed to access xAPIC mmio when uses x2APIC.
> > -	 */
> > -	if (apic_x2apic_mode(svm->vcpu.arch.apic) &&
> > -	    avic_mode == AVIC_MODE_X2) {
> > +	if (apic_x2apic_mode(svm->vcpu.arch.apic)) {
> >  		vmcb->control.int_ctl |= X2APIC_MODE_MASK;
> >  		vmcb->control.avic_physical_id |= X2AVIC_MAX_PHYSICAL_ID;
> >  		/* Disabling MSR intercept for x2APIC registers */
> >  		svm_set_x2apic_msr_interception(svm, false);
> >  	} else {
> > -		/* For xAVIC and hybrid-xAVIC modes */
> >  		vmcb->control.avic_physical_id |= AVIC_MAX_PHYSICAL_ID;
> >  		/* Enabling MSR intercept for x2APIC registers */
> >  		svm_set_x2apic_msr_interception(svm, true);
> > @@ -537,6 +527,14 @@ unsigned long avic_vcpu_get_apicv_inhibit_reasons(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >  {
> >  	if (is_guest_mode(vcpu))
> >  		return APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_NESTED;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * AVIC must be disabled if x2AVIC isn't supported and the guest has
> > +	 * x2APIC enabled.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (avic_mode != AVIC_MODE_X2 && apic_x2apic_mode(vcpu->arch.apic))
> > +		return APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_X2APIC;
> > +
> >  	return 0;
> >  }
> >  
> > @@ -993,6 +991,7 @@ bool avic_check_apicv_inhibit_reasons(enum kvm_apicv_inhibit reason)
> >  			  BIT(APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_NESTED) |
> >  			  BIT(APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_IRQWIN) |
> >  			  BIT(APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_PIT_REINJ) |
> > +			  BIT(APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_X2APIC) |
> >  			  BIT(APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_BLOCKIRQ) |
> >  			  BIT(APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_SEV)      |
> >  			  BIT(APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_APIC_ID_MODIFIED) |



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31  0:34 [PATCH 00/19] KVM: x86: AVIC and local APIC fixes+cleanups Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 01/19] KVM: SVM: Process ICR on AVIC IPI delivery failure due to invalid target Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  9:18   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 02/19] KVM: SVM: Don't put/load AVIC when setting virtual APIC mode Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  9:24   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 16:33     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 03/19] Revert "KVM: SVM: Introduce hybrid-AVIC mode" Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  5:59   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  6:45     ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2022-08-31 16:29       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 17:46         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 17:58           ` Jim Mattson
2022-08-31 18:01             ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 19:12           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-01 10:25             ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-01 11:47               ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-01 13:29               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-01 13:53               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-01 15:08               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 16:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 17:47       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 04/19] KVM: SVM: Replace "avic_mode" enum with "x2avic_enabled" boolean Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  9:36   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 05/19] KVM: SVM: Compute dest based on sender's x2APIC status for AVIC kick Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  9:38   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-01  2:56   ` Li,Rongqing
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 06/19] KVM: SVM: Get x2APIC logical dest bitmap from ICRH[15:0], not ICHR[31:16] Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  6:09   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  9:43     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 16:35       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 18:18         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 07/19] KVM: SVM: Drop buggy and redundant AVIC "single logical dest" check Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  6:19   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 16:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 18:10       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 08/19] KVM: SVM: Remove redundant cluster calculation that also creates a shadow Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 10:19   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-01 20:02     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 09/19] KVM: SVM: Drop duplicate calcuation of AVIC/x2AVIC "logical index" Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 10/19] KVM: SVM: Document that vCPU ID == APIC ID in AVIC kick fastpatch Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 10:22   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 16:16     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 17:49       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 11/19] KVM: SVM: Add helper to perform final AVIC "kick" of single vCPU Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 10:25   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 15:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 18:12       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:34 ` [PATCH 12/19] KVM: x86: Disable APIC logical map if logical ID covers multiple MDAs Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 13:23   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:35 ` [PATCH 13/19] KVM: x86: Disable APIC logical map if vCPUs are aliased in logical mode Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 13:24   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:35 ` [PATCH 14/19] KVM: x86: Honor architectural behavior for aliased 8-bit APIC IDs Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 13:37   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 16:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 17:51       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:35 ` [PATCH 15/19] KVM: x86: Explicitly skip optimized logical map setup if vCPU's LDR==0 Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 13:41   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 16:47     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  0:35 ` [PATCH 16/19] KVM: x86: Explicitly track all possibilities for APIC map's logical modes Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 13:43   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 16:56     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 17:53       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-16 18:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 18:42   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 19:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  0:35 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: SVM: Handle multiple logical targets in AVIC kick fastpath Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 13:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31 18:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 18:25       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:35 ` [PATCH 18/19] KVM: SVM: Ignore writes to Remote Read Data on AVIC write traps Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31 10:40   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  0:35 ` [PATCH 19/19] Revert "KVM: SVM: Do not throw warning when calling avic_vcpu_load on a running vcpu" Sean Christopherson
2022-08-31  6:07   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-31  7:03     ` Maxim Levitsky

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