From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/9] x86/smpboot: Support parallel startup of secondary CPUs
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2022 12:39:17 +0000 [thread overview]
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On Tue, 2022-02-01 at 11:56 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 10:25:01AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > Thanks. It looks like that is only invoked after boot, with a write to
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/microcode/reload.
> >
> > My series is only parallelising the initial bringup at boot time, so it
> > shouldn't make any difference.
>
> No, I don't mean __reload_late() - I pointed you at that function to
> show the dance we must do when updating microcode late.
>
> The load_ucode_{ap,bsp}() routines are what is called when loading ucode
> early.
>
> So the question is, does the parallelizing change the order in which APs
> are brought up and can it happen that a SMT sibling of a two-SMT core
> executes *something* while the other SMT sibling is updating microcode.
>
> If so, that would be bad.
Right. So as you surmise, I haven't broken that... yet. At least not in
the patches I've posted :)
The call to ucode_cpu_init() is in cpu_init(), right after the call to
wait_for_master_cpu(), which this AP's bit in cpu_initialized_mask and
then waits for the BSP to set its bit in cpu_callout_mask.
That's a full synchronization point with do_wait_cpu_initalized() on
the BSP, which waits for the former and then sets the later.
So... with the series I've posted, all APs end up waiting in
wait_for_master_cpu() until the final serialized bringup.
In the top of my git tree, you can see a half-baked 'parallel part 2'
commit which introduces a new x86/cpu:wait-init cpuhp state that would
invoke do_wait_cpu_initialized() for each CPU in turn, which *would*
release them all into load_ucode_bsp() at the same time and have
precisely the problem you're describing.
I'll commit a FIXME comment now so that it doesn't slip my mind.
Thanks.
> > However... it does look like there's nothing preventing a sibling being
> > brought online *while* the dance you mention above is occurring.
>
> Bottom line is: of the two SMT siblings, one needs to be updating
> microcode while the other is idle. I.e., what __reload_late() does.
>
> > Shouldn't __reload_late() take the device_hotplug_lock to prevent that?
>
> See reload_store().
Hm, not sure I see how that's protecting itself from someone
simultaneously echoing 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu${SIBLING}/online
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-01 12:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-15 14:56 [PATCH v3 0/9] Parallel CPU bringup for x86_64 David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] x86/apic/x2apic: Fix parallel handling of cluster_mask David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] cpu/hotplug: Move idle_thread_get() to <linux/smpboot.h> David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] cpu/hotplug: Add dynamic parallel bringup states before CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] x86/smpboot: Reference count on smpboot_setup_warm_reset_vector() David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] x86/smpboot: Split up native_cpu_up into separate phases and document them David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] x86/smpboot: Support parallel startup of secondary CPUs David Woodhouse
2021-12-16 14:24 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-16 18:24 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-16 19:00 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-16 19:20 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-29 12:04 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-31 13:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-02-01 10:25 ` David Woodhouse
2022-02-01 10:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-02-01 12:39 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2022-02-01 12:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-02-01 13:02 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] x86/smpboot: Send INIT/SIPI/SIPI to secondary CPUs in parallel David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] x86/mtrr: Avoid repeated save of MTRRs on boot-time CPU bringup David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] x86/smpboot: Serialize topology updates for secondary bringup David Woodhouse
2021-12-16 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Parallel CPU bringup for x86_64 Tom Lendacky
2021-12-16 19:24 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-16 22:52 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-17 0:13 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-17 10:09 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-12-17 15:40 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-20 17:10 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-20 18:54 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-20 21:29 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-20 21:47 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-21 22:25 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-21 22:33 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-17 17:48 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-17 19:11 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-17 19:26 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-17 20:15 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-17 19:46 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-17 20:13 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-17 20:55 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-17 22:48 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-28 9:54 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-28 21:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-28 21:48 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-29 9:22 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-16 19:52 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-16 19:55 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-16 19:59 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-27 16:57 ` Paul Menzel
2021-12-28 11:34 ` Paul Menzel
2021-12-28 14:18 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-29 13:18 ` Paul Menzel
2021-12-29 13:54 ` David Woodhouse
2022-02-14 13:45 ` Paul Menzel
2022-04-21 10:00 ` Mimoja
2022-04-22 21:19 ` Tom Lendacky
2022-06-01 8:30 ` David Woodhouse
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