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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 29/32] KVM: arm64: Pass hypercalls to userspace
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:12:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <865ycg1kv2.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230203135043.409192-30-james.morse@arm.com>

On Fri, 03 Feb 2023 13:50:40 +0000,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
> 
> When capability KVM_CAP_ARM_HVC_TO_USER is available, userspace can
> request to handle all hypercalls that aren't handled by KVM. With the
> help of another capability, this will allow userspace to handle PSCI
> calls.
> 
> Suggested-by: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
> Signed-off-by: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
> 
> ---
> 

On top of Oliver's ask not to make this a blanket "steal everything",
but instead to have an actual request for ranges of forwarded
hypercalls:

> Notes on this implementation:
> 
> * A similar mechanism was proposed for SDEI some time ago [1]. This RFC
>   generalizes the idea to all hypercalls, since that was suggested on
>   the list [2, 3].
> 
> * We're reusing kvm_run.hypercall. I copied x0-x5 into
>   kvm_run.hypercall.args[] to help userspace but I'm tempted to remove
>   this, because:
>   - Most user handlers will need to write results back into the
>     registers (x0-x3 for SMCCC), so if we keep this shortcut we should
>     go all the way and read them back on return to kernel.
>   - QEMU doesn't care about this shortcut, it pulls all vcpu regs before
>     handling the call.
>   - SMCCC uses x0-x16 for parameters.
>   x0 does contain the SMCCC function ID and may be useful for fast
>   dispatch, we could keep that plus the immediate number.
> 
> * Add a flag in the kvm_run.hypercall telling whether this is HVC or
>   SMC?  Can be added later in those bottom longmode and pad fields.

We definitely need this. A nested hypervisor can (and does) use SMCs
as the conduit. The question is whether they represent two distinct
namespaces or not. I *think* we can unify them, but someone should
check and maybe get clarification from the owners of the SMCCC spec.

>
> * On top of this we could share with userspace which HVC ranges are
>   available and which ones are handled by KVM. That can actually be added
>   independently, through a vCPU/VM device attribute which doesn't consume
>   a new ioctl:
>   - userspace issues HAS_ATTR ioctl on the vcpu fd to query whether this
>     feature is available.
>   - userspace queries the number N of HVC ranges using one GET_ATTR.
>   - userspace passes an array of N ranges using another GET_ATTR. The
>     array is filled and returned by KVM.

As mentioned above, I think this interface should go both ways.
Userspace should request the forwarding of a certain range of
hypercalls via a similar SET_ATTR interface.

Another question is how we migrate VMs that have these forwarding
requirements. Do we expect the VMM to replay the forwarding as part of
the setting up on the other side? Or do we save/restore this via a
firmware pseudo-register?

> 
> * Enabling this using a vCPU arch feature rather than the whole-VM
>   capability would be fine, but it would be difficult to do the same for
>   the following psci-in-user capability. So let's enable everything at
>   the VM scope.

Absolutely.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-05 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-03 13:50 [RFC PATCH 00/32] ACPI/arm64: add support for virtual cpuhotplug James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 01/32] ia64: Fix build error due to switch case label appearing next to declaration James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 02/32] ACPI: Move ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU to be enabled per architecture James Morse
2023-08-30 18:31   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 03/32] drivers: base: Use present CPUs in GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 04/32] drivers: base: Allow parts of GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES to be overridden James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 05/32] drivers: base: Move cpu_dev_init() after node_dev_init() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 06/32] arm64: setup: Switch over to GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES using arch_register_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 07/32] ia64/topology: Switch over to GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 08/32] x86/topology: " James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 09/32] LoongArch: " James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 10/32] arch_topology: Make register_cpu_capacity_sysctl() tolerant to late CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 11/32] ACPI: processor: Add support for processors described as container packages James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 12/32] ACPI: processor: Register CPUs that are online, but not described in the DSDT James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 13/32] ACPI: processor: Register all CPUs from acpi_processor_get_info() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 14/32] ACPI: Rename ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU to include 'present' James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 15/32] ACPI: Move acpi_bus_trim_one() before acpi_scan_hot_remove() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 16/32] ACPI: Rename acpi_processor_hotadd_init and remove pre-processor guards James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 17/32] ACPI: Add post_eject to struct acpi_scan_handler for cpu hotplug James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 18/32] ACPI: Check _STA present bit before making CPUs not present James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 19/32] ACPI: Warn when the present bit changes but the feature is not enabled James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 20/32] drivers: base: Implement weak arch_unregister_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 21/32] LoongArch: Use the __weak version of arch_unregister_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 22/32] arm64: acpi: Move get_cpu_for_acpi_id() to a header James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 23/32] ACPICA: Add new MADT GICC flags fields [code first?] James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 24/32] arm64, irqchip/gic-v3, ACPI: Move MADT GICC enabled check into a helper James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 25/32] irqchip/gic-v3: Don't return errors from gic_acpi_match_gicc() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 26/32] irqchip/gic-v3: Add support for ACPI's disabled but 'online capable' CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 27/32] arm64: psci: Ignore DENIED CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 28/32] ACPI: add support to register CPUs based on the _STA enabled bit James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 29/32] KVM: arm64: Pass hypercalls to userspace James Morse
2023-02-03 21:08   ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-07 17:50     ` James Morse
2023-02-08  9:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-05 10:12   ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2023-02-06 10:10     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-06 12:31       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-07  9:41         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-07 11:23           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-07 12:46             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-06 17:19     ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-07 17:50     ` James Morse
2023-02-08  8:40       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-08 14:25         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-11  1:44       ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 30/32] KVM: arm64: Pass PSCI calls " James Morse
2023-05-23  9:32   ` Salil Mehta
2023-09-12 17:01     ` James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 31/32] arm64: document virtual CPU hotplug's expectations James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 32/32] cpumask: Add enabled cpumask for present CPUs that can be brought online James Morse
2023-03-07 12:00 ` [RFC PATCH 00/32] ACPI/arm64: add support for virtual cpuhotplug Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-13 15:50   ` James Morse
2023-03-14 11:02     ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-29  2:35 ` Gavin Shan
2023-09-12 17:01   ` James Morse
2023-09-12 22:38     ` Gavin Shan
2023-09-13 15:28       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-29  5:52 ` Shaoqin Huang
2023-04-03  6:25   ` Gavin Shan

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