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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] ACPI / scan: Acquire device_hotplug_lock in acpi_scan_init()
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:19:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190725191943.GA6142@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447b74ca-f7c7-0835-fd50-a9f7191fe47c@redhat.com>

On Thu 25-07-19 16:35:07, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 25.07.19 15:57, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 25-07-19 15:05:02, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >> On 25.07.19 14:56, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>> On Wed 24-07-19 16:30:17, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>> We end up calling __add_memory() without the device hotplug lock held.
> >>>> (I used a local patch to assert in __add_memory() that the
> >>>>  device_hotplug_lock is held - I might upstream that as well soon)
> >>>>
> >>>> [   26.771684]        create_memory_block_devices+0xa4/0x140
> >>>> [   26.772952]        add_memory_resource+0xde/0x200
> >>>> [   26.773987]        __add_memory+0x6e/0xa0
> >>>> [   26.775161]        acpi_memory_device_add+0x149/0x2b0
> >>>> [   26.776263]        acpi_bus_attach+0xf1/0x1f0
> >>>> [   26.777247]        acpi_bus_attach+0x66/0x1f0
> >>>> [   26.778268]        acpi_bus_attach+0x66/0x1f0
> >>>> [   26.779073]        acpi_bus_attach+0x66/0x1f0
> >>>> [   26.780143]        acpi_bus_scan+0x3e/0x90
> >>>> [   26.780844]        acpi_scan_init+0x109/0x257
> >>>> [   26.781638]        acpi_init+0x2ab/0x30d
> >>>> [   26.782248]        do_one_initcall+0x58/0x2cf
> >>>> [   26.783181]        kernel_init_freeable+0x1bd/0x247
> >>>> [   26.784345]        kernel_init+0x5/0xf1
> >>>> [   26.785314]        ret_from_fork+0x3a/0x50
> >>>>
> >>>> So perform the locking just like in acpi_device_hotplug().
> >>>
> >>> While playing with the device_hotplug_lock, can we actually document
> >>> what it is protecting please? I have a bad feeling that we are adding
> >>> this lock just because some other code path does rather than with a good
> >>> idea why it is needed. This patch just confirms that. What exactly does
> >>> the lock protect from here in an early boot stage.
> >>
> >> We have plenty of documentation already
> >>
> >> mm/memory_hotplug.c
> >>
> >> git grep -C5 device_hotplug mm/memory_hotplug.c
> >>
> >> Also see
> >>
> >> Documentation/core-api/memory-hotplug.rst
> > 
> > OK, fair enough. I was more pointing to a documentation right there
> > where the lock is declared because that is the place where people
> > usually check for documentation. The core-api documentation looks quite
> > nice. And based on that doc it seems that this patch is actually not
> > needed because neither the online/offline or cpu hotplug should be
> > possible that early unless I am missing something.
> 
> I really prefer to stick to locking rules as outlined on the
> interfaces if it doesn't hurt. Why it is not needed is not clear.
> 
> > 
> >> Regarding the early stage: primarily lockdep as I mentioned.
> > 
> > Could you add a lockdep splat that would be fixed by this patch to the
> > changelog for reference?
> > 
> 
> I have one where I enforce what's documented (but that's of course not
> upstream and therefore not "real" yet)

Then I suppose to not add locking for something that is not a problem.
Really, think about it. People will look at this code and follow the
lead without really knowing why the locking is needed.
device_hotplug_lock has its purpose and if the code in question doesn't
need synchronization for the documented scenarios then the locking
simply shouldn't be there. Adding the lock just because of a
non-existing, and IMHO dubious, lockdep splats is just wrong.

We need to rationalize the locking here, not to add more hacks.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-25 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-24 14:30 [PATCH v1] ACPI / scan: Acquire device_hotplug_lock in acpi_scan_init() David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25  9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25  9:18 ` Oscar Salvador
2019-07-25  9:22   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25  9:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 12:56 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-25 13:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 13:57     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-25 14:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 19:19         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-07-25 20:49           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 21:23             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-26  7:20               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-26  7:57             ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26  8:05               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-26  8:31                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26  8:36                   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-26  8:44                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26  8:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-26 10:31                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26 10:37                           ` David Hildenbrand

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