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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@metux.net>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] gpio: sch: Add interrupt support
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:03:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f3da791-4a10-c2c4-dc5a-22ad16ed7be6@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc856e19-470d-7655-5680-a031831ab513@metux.net>

On 26.04.19 16:42, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 26.04.19 15:36, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> 
>> At the same time, there are no real alternatives - to my> knowledge - for the value it brings (various bindings) to simply
> switch> the engine.
> Which value exactly does that collection of crude wrappers and broken
> attempts to buypass the kernel (driving gpios via /dev/mem *facepalm*)
> provide ?

Leaving that blunt hack aside:

import mraa

pin = mraa.Gpio(13)
pin.dir(mraa.DIR_OUT)
pin.write(1)

And the same goes for nodejs, java and c++.

Moreover, this allows you to abstract away where "Pin 13" actually came from on 
that board if the kernel changes (BSP -> upstream...) or the extension board or 
... We will exploit that when moving to a completely different base hardware 
with the next revision or our IOT2000.

> 
> mraa belongs to the category of software, I would never put onto any
> production system. (yes, I already had a client who asked me to repair
> his mraa-based software. finally, I've replaced mraa w/ a few LoC ...)

You also have to keep the class of "cool, I've just created my first Node.RED 
node!" IoT newbies in mind. These higher abstraction help to keep them away from 
the wrong lower APIs - or enable them to do something at all ("Cool, I've just 
connected my first two nodes!"). By far not all of them have consultants at hand.

And while we only ship our IOT2000 image with mraa and all the fun as reference 
image, it's way more for quite a few users. Even if you do not want to look 
behind the curtains of certain software components (that we primarily inherited 
and then started to clean up), they are working, or we would have heard.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-26 16:03 UTC|newest]

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2019-04-24  7:58   ` [PATCH 2/2] gpio: sch: Add interrupt support Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  7:58     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  8:12     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  8:12       ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  8:18       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  8:18         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  8:25         ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  8:25           ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  8:42           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  8:42             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  9:36             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  9:36               ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  9:45               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  9:45                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  9:48                 ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  9:48                   ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:01                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 10:01                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 10:19                     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:19                       ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:33                       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 10:33                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 10:39                         ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:39                           ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:46                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 10:46                             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 12:41                             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 12:41                               ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 13:13                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 13:13                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 14:24                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 14:24                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 15:33                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 15:33                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-26 13:06                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 13:06                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 13:36                             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 13:36                               ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 14:42                               ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-26 14:42                                 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-26 15:31                                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 15:31                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 16:03                                 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2019-04-26 16:03                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:20                                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:20                                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:33                                     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:33                                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:39                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:39                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:46                                         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:46                                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:52                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:52                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:56                                             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:56                                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:44                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:44                                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:52                                         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:52                                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 18:26                                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 18:26                                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:37                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:37                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-29 11:09                                   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-29 11:09                                     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-05-16 12:20                                     ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-26 14:41                             ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-26 14:41                               ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-26 15:44                               ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 15:44                                 ` Jan Kiszka

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