From: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: new ...at() flag: AT_NO_JUMPS
Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 04:00:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170505030058.GO29622@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyOKM7DW7+0sdDFKdZFXgptb5r1id9=Wvhd8AgSP7qjwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 06:27:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> As mentioned last time, at least for the git usage, even relative
> symlinks are a no-no - not because they'd escape, but simply because
> git wants to see the *unique* name, and resolve relative symlinks to
> either the symlink, or to the actual file it points to.
>
> So I think that we'd want an additional flag that says "no symlinks at all".
OK, that's easily done.
> And I think the "no mountpoint" traversal might be splittable too.
>
> Yes, sometimes you'd probably want to say "stay exactly inside this
> filesystem" (like find -xdev). So no arguments against AT_XDEV that
> refuses any mount traversal (kind of like my "no symlink traversal"
> thing).
>
> But at other points you might want to just guarantee that the walk
> stays below a certain starting point and doesn't escape.
>
> That could still allow crossing mount-points, but only if they are
> non-bind mounts and cannot let us escape.
>
> I'm not sure if that's testable, though.
This one isn't, unfortunately - there is no difference between bind and
no-bind; vfsmounts form a tree and both normal mount and bind add leaves
to it. Moreover, mount -t ext2 /dev/sdc7 /mnt; mount -t ext2 /dev/sdc7 /tmp/a
yield the same state as mount -t ext2 /dev/sdc7; mount --bind /mnt /tmp/a.
There is no way to tell the difference, simply because there *is* no
difference. Moreover, either can be followed by umount /mnt and you'll get
the same state as you would have after a solitary mount of the same fs on
/tmp/a.
Ho-hum... So:
AT_BENEATH AT_XDEV AT_NO_SYMLINKS
absolute pathname: EXDEV
non-relative symlink: EXDEV ? ELOOP
relative symlink: ELOOP
.. from starting point: EXDEV
.. crossing mountpoint: EXDEV
crossing into mountpoint: EXDEV
1) What should AT_XDEV do about absolute symlinks? Nothing special? EXDEV?
EXDEV if we are not on root?
2) What should AT_BENEATH | AT_NO_SYMLINKS do on absolute symlinks? My
preference would be "AT_NO_SYMLINKS wins, ELOOP for you", but that's based
mostly upon the convenience of implementation.
3) What effect should AT_NO_SYMLINKS have upon the final component? Same
as AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-05 3:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-29 22:04 new ...at() flag: AT_NO_JUMPS Al Viro
[not found] ` <20170429220414.GT29622-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-29 23:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXhOhG0tRDDOROwT9ghvQvKziM2PBN=CX5Soa2m7=0cFw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-29 23:25 ` Al Viro
2017-04-30 1:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <20170429232504.GU29622-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30 4:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <20170430043822.GE27790-PfSpb0PWhxZc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30 16:10 ` Al Viro
2017-05-01 4:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrX0dx3d6OQQ+1GJ_xgSz3iNVeRn+8o6b-+3f7awVOWdQg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-01 5:15 ` Al Viro
2017-05-01 17:36 ` Jann Horn
2017-05-01 19:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CAG48ez0wccvQ5i+XN_Q_yA9_ZwSaGb-W+zky0KQb_GU=9G+MSw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 0:30 ` Al Viro
2017-05-05 0:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05 1:06 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20170505003030.GM29622-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 1:27 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFyOKM7DW7+0sdDFKdZFXgptb5r1id9=Wvhd8AgSP7qjwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 3:00 ` Al Viro [this message]
2017-05-05 4:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-05 4:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05 2:47 ` Jann Horn
2017-05-05 3:46 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFy1SokNNUgxBnFLdA1PRyeG13BqyYNg5xVrW-tNGqh2Bg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 4:39 ` Al Viro
2017-05-05 4:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrVQ2fwDZOsGSoLyRb6Qjp4nszfDjOPSYi0kzqt23Aw1NA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 20:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-05 20:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <8737cj6oao.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 19:34 ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-05-18 8:50 ` David Drysdale
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