From: Daniel Colascione <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: Andy Lutomirski <email@example.com> Cc: Linux API <firstname.lastname@example.org>, LKML <email@example.com>, Lokesh Gidra <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Nick Kralevich <email@example.com>, Nosh Minwalla <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Tim Murray <email@example.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] Add a UFFD_SECURE flag to the userfaultfd API. Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 17:51:45 -0700 Message-ID: <CAKOZuevUqs_Oe1UEwguQK7Ate3ai1DSVSij=0R=vmz9LzX4k6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVZHd+csdRL-uKbVN3Z7yeNNtxiDy-UsutMi=K3ZgCiYw@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:10 PM Andy Lutomirski <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 12:16 PM Daniel Colascione <email@example.com> wrote: > > > > The new secure flag makes userfaultfd use a new "secure" anonymous > > file object instead of the default one, letting security modules > > supervise userfaultfd use. > > > > Requiring that users pass a new flag lets us avoid changing the > > semantics for existing callers. > > Is there any good reason not to make this be the default? > > > The only downside I can see is that it would increase the memory usage > of userfaultfd(), but that doesn't seem like such a big deal. A > lighter-weight alternative would be to have a single inode shared by > all userfaultfd instances, which would require a somewhat different > internal anon_inode API. I'd also prefer to just make SELinux use mandatory, but there's a nasty interaction with UFFD_EVENT_FORK. Adding a new UFFD_SECURE mode which blocks UFFD_EVENT_FORK sidesteps this problem. Maybe you know a better way to deal with it. Right now, when a process with a UFFD-managed VMA using UFFD_EVENT_FORK forks, we make a new userfaultfd_ctx out of thin air and enqueue it on the message queue for the parent process. When we dequeue that context, we get to resolve_userfault_fork, which makes up a new UFFD file object out of thin air in the context of the reading process. Following normal SELinux rules, the SID attached to that new file object would be the task SID of the process *reading* the fork event, not the SID of the new fork child. That seems wrong, because the label we give to the UFFD should correspond to the label of the process that UFFD controls. To try to solve this problem, we can move the file object creation to the fork child and enqueue the file object itself instead of just the userfaultfd_ctx, treating the dequeue as a file-descriptor-receive operation just like a recvmsg of an AF_UNIX socket with SCM_RIGHTS. (This approach seems more elegant anyway, since it reflects what's actually going on.) The trouble the early-file-object-creation approach is that the fork child may not be allowed to create UFFD file objects on its own and an LSM can't tell the difference between UFFD_EVENT_FORK handling creating the file object and the fork child just calling userfaultfd(), meaning an LSM could veto the creation of the file object for the fork event. We can't just create a non-ANON_INODE_SECURE file object instead: that would defeat the whole purpose of supervising UFFD using SELinux. But maybe we can go further: let's separate authentication and authorization, as we do in other LSM hooks. Let's split my inode_init_security_anon into two hooks, inode_init_security_anon and inode_create_anon. We'd define the former to just initialize the file object's security information --- in the SELinux case, figuring out its class and SID --- and define the latter to answer the yes/no question of whether a particular anonymous inode creation should be allowed. Normally, anon_inode_getfile2() would just call both hooks. We'd add another anon_inode_getfd flag, ANON_INODE_SKIP_AUTHORIZATION or something, that would tell anon_inode_getfile2() to skip calling the authorization hook, effectively making the creation always succeed. We can then make the UFFD code pass ANON_INODE_SKIP_AUTHORIZATION when it's creating a file object in the fork child while creating UFFD_EVENT_FORK messages. Granted, UFFD fork processing doesn't actually occur in the fork child, but in copy_mm, in the parent --- but the right thing should happen anyway, right? I'm open to suggestions. In the meantime, I figured we'd just define a UFFD_SECURE and make it incompatible with UFFD_EVENT_FORK. > In any event, I don't think that "make me visible to SELinux" should > be a choice that user code makes. Right. The new unprivileged_userfaultfd setting is ugly, but it at least removes the ability of unprivileged users to opt out of SELinux supervision.
next prev parent reply index Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-10-12 19:15 [PATCH 0/7] Harden userfaultfd Daniel Colascione 2019-10-12 19:15 ` [PATCH 1/7] Add a new flags-accepting interface for anonymous inodes Daniel Colascione 2019-10-14 4:26 ` kbuild test robot 2019-10-14 15:38 ` Jann Horn 2019-10-14 18:15 ` Daniel Colascione 2019-10-14 18:30 ` Jann Horn 2019-10-15 8:08 ` Christoph Hellwig 2019-10-12 19:15 ` [PATCH 2/7] Add a concept of a "secure" anonymous file Daniel Colascione 2019-10-14 3:01 ` kbuild test robot 2019-10-15 8:08 ` Christoph Hellwig 2019-10-12 19:15 ` [PATCH 3/7] Add a UFFD_SECURE flag to the userfaultfd API Daniel Colascione 2019-10-12 23:10 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-13 0:51 ` Daniel Colascione [this message] 2019-10-13 1:14 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-13 1:38 ` Daniel Colascione 2019-10-14 16:04 ` Jann Horn 2019-10-23 19:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2019-10-23 19:21 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-23 21:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2019-10-23 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-23 22:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2019-10-23 23:01 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-23 23:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2019-10-23 20:05 ` Daniel Colascione 2019-10-24 0:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2019-10-23 20:15 ` Linus Torvalds 2019-10-24 9:02 ` Mike Rapoport 2019-10-24 15:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2019-10-25 20:12 ` Mike Rapoport 2019-10-22 21:27 ` Daniel Colascione 2019-10-23 4:11 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-23 7:29 ` Cyrill Gorcunov 2019-10-23 12:43 ` Mike Rapoport 2019-10-23 17:13 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-12 19:15 ` [PATCH 4/7] Teach SELinux about a new userfaultfd class Daniel Colascione 2019-10-12 23:08 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-13 0:11 ` Daniel Colascione 2019-10-13 0:46 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-12 19:16 ` [PATCH 5/7] Let userfaultfd opt out of handling kernel-mode faults Daniel Colascione 2019-10-12 19:16 ` [PATCH 6/7] Allow users to require UFFD_SECURE Daniel Colascione 2019-10-12 23:12 ` Andy Lutomirski 2019-10-12 19:16 ` [PATCH 7/7] Add a new sysctl for limiting userfaultfd to user mode faults Daniel Colascione 2019-10-16 0:02 ` [PATCH 0/7] Harden userfaultfd James Morris 2019-11-15 15:09 ` Stephen Smalley
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