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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: "open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 6/7] mm: fix MADV_[FREE|DONTNEED] TLB flush miss problem
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:08:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170813120808.ph4zlz5u4p2edqev@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E340B75B-2830-4E6D-BF0A-2C58A7002CF1@vmware.com>

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 06:14:21AM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 05:08:17PM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >> void tlb_finish_mmu(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
> >> 		unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> >> {
> >> -	arch_tlb_finish_mmu(tlb, start, end);
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * If there are parallel threads are doing PTE changes on same range
> >> +	 * under non-exclusive lock(e.g., mmap_sem read-side) but defer TLB
> >> +	 * flush by batching, a thread has stable TLB entry can fail to flush
> >> +	 * the TLB by observing pte_none|!pte_dirty, for example so flush TLB
> >> +	 * forcefully if we detect parallel PTE batching threads.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	bool force = mm_tlb_flush_nested(tlb->mm);
> >> +
> >> +	arch_tlb_finish_mmu(tlb, start, end, force);
> >> }
> > 
> > I don't understand the comment nor the ordering. What guarantees we see
> > the increment if we need to?
> 
> The comment regards the problem that is described in the change-log, and a
> long thread that is referenced in it. So the question is whether “I don’t
> understand” means “I don’t understand” or “it is not clear enough”. I’ll
> be glad to address either one - just say which.

I only read the comment, that _should_ be sufficient. Comments that rely
on Changelogs and random threads are useless.

The comment on its own simply doesn't make sense.

> As for the ordering - I tried to clarify it in the thread of the commit. Let
> me know if it is clear now.

Yeah, I'll do a new patch because if it only cares about _the_ PTL, we
can do away with that extra smp_mb__after_atomic().

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: "open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 6/7] mm: fix MADV_[FREE|DONTNEED] TLB flush miss problem
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:08:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170813120808.ph4zlz5u4p2edqev@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
Message-ID: <20170813120808.4JKYRwHNIfDNGf_H6Eb5TJp_vYYWuQCVgc69XLPjRw4@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E340B75B-2830-4E6D-BF0A-2C58A7002CF1@vmware.com>

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 06:14:21AM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 05:08:17PM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >> void tlb_finish_mmu(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
> >> 		unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> >> {
> >> -	arch_tlb_finish_mmu(tlb, start, end);
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * If there are parallel threads are doing PTE changes on same range
> >> +	 * under non-exclusive lock(e.g., mmap_sem read-side) but defer TLB
> >> +	 * flush by batching, a thread has stable TLB entry can fail to flush
> >> +	 * the TLB by observing pte_none|!pte_dirty, for example so flush TLB
> >> +	 * forcefully if we detect parallel PTE batching threads.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	bool force = mm_tlb_flush_nested(tlb->mm);
> >> +
> >> +	arch_tlb_finish_mmu(tlb, start, end, force);
> >> }
> > 
> > I don't understand the comment nor the ordering. What guarantees we see
> > the increment if we need to?
> 
> The comment regards the problem that is described in the change-log, and a
> long thread that is referenced in it. So the question is whether “I don’t
> understand” means “I don’t understand” or “it is not clear enough”. I’ll
> be glad to address either one - just say which.

I only read the comment, that _should_ be sufficient. Comments that rely
on Changelogs and random threads are useless.

The comment on its own simply doesn't make sense.

> As for the ordering - I tried to clarify it in the thread of the commit. Let
> me know if it is clear now.

Yeah, I'll do a new patch because if it only cares about _the_ PTL, we
can do away with that extra smp_mb__after_atomic().

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-13 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170802000818.4760-1-namit@vmware.com>
2017-08-02  0:08 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] mm: refactoring TLB gathering API Nadav Amit
2017-08-02  0:08   ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-11  9:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11  9:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11 17:12     ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-11 17:12       ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-14  0:49       ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-02  0:08 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] mm: fix MADV_[FREE|DONTNEED] TLB flush miss problem Nadav Amit
2017-08-02  0:08   ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-08  1:19   ` [lkp-robot] [mm] 7674270022: will-it-scale.per_process_ops -19.3% regression kernel test robot
2017-08-08  2:28     ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-08  2:28       ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-08  4:23       ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-08  4:23         ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-08  5:51         ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-08  5:51           ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-08  8:08           ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-08  8:08             ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-08  8:16             ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-09  1:25             ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-08-09  2:59             ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-08-09  2:59               ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-08-10  4:13               ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-10  4:13                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-10  4:14                 ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-10  4:14                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-10  4:20                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-11 13:30   ` [PATCH v6 6/7] mm: fix MADV_[FREE|DONTNEED] TLB flush miss problem Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11 13:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-13  6:14     ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-13  6:14       ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-13 12:08       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-08-13 12:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-14  1:26     ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-14  1:26       ` Minchan Kim

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