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From: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 7/8] arm64: update Documentation/arm64/tagged-pointers.txt
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:09:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeHK+yPCRNAOSi6OpYC_Tdbo9SoXRVRbx8pjXNq96v8csO-Wg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181010140925.-nHXKoy5LSo0_0T_czWIBvaz9gVlPiFzw-65G7OopZo@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181003173256.GG12998@arrakis.emea.arm.com>

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 03:12:42PM +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
>> diff --git a/Documentation/arm64/tagged-pointers.txt b/Documentation/arm64/tagged-pointers.txt
>> index a25a99e82bb1..ae877d185fdb 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/arm64/tagged-pointers.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/arm64/tagged-pointers.txt
>> @@ -17,13 +17,21 @@ this byte for application use.
>>  Passing tagged addresses to the kernel
>>  --------------------------------------
>>
>> -All interpretation of userspace memory addresses by the kernel assumes
>> -an address tag of 0x00.
>> +Some initial work for supporting non-zero address tags passed to the
>> +kernel has been done. As of now, the kernel supports tags in:
>
> With my maintainer hat on, the above statement leads me to think this
> new ABI is work in progress, so not yet suitable for upstream.

OK, I think we can just say "The kernel supports tags in:" here. Will do in v8.

>
> Also, how is user space supposed to know that it can now pass tagged
> pointers into the kernel? An ABI change (or relaxation), needs to be
> advertised by the kernel, usually via a new HWCAP bit (e.g. HWCAP_TBI).
> Once we have a HWCAP bit in place, we need to be pretty clear about
> which syscalls can and cannot cope with tagged pointers. The "as of now"
> implies potential further relaxation which, again, would need to be
> advertised to user in some (additional) way.

How exactly should I do that? Something like this [1]? Or is it only
for hardware specific things and for this patchset I need to do
something else?

[1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/7206dc93a58fb76421c4411eefa3c003337bcb2d

>
>> -This includes, but is not limited to, addresses found in:
>> +  - user fault addresses
>
> While the kernel currently supports this in some way (by clearing the
> tag exception entry, el0_da), the above implies (at least to me) that
> sigcontext.fault_address would contain the tagged address. That's not
> the case (unless I missed it in your patches).

I'll update the doc to reflect this in v8.

>
>> - - pointer arguments to system calls, including pointers in structures
>> -   passed to system calls,
>> +  - pointer arguments (including pointers in structures), which don't
>> +    describe virtual memory ranges, passed to system calls
>
> I think we need to be more precise here...

In what way?

>
>> +All other interpretations of userspace memory addresses by the kernel
>> +assume an address tag of 0x00. This includes, but is not limited to,
>> +addresses found in:
>> +
>> + - pointer arguments (including pointers in structures), which describe
>> +   virtual memory ranges, passed to memory system calls (mmap, mprotect,
>> +   etc.)
>
> ...and probably a full list here.

Will add a full list in v8.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-10 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-02 13:12 [PATCH v7 0/8] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] arm64: add type casts to untagged_addr macro Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] uaccess: add untagged_addr definition for other arches Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] arm64: untag user addresses in access_ok and __uaccess_mask_ptr Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] mm, arm64: untag user addresses in mm/gup.c Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] lib, arm64: untag addrs passed to strncpy_from_user and strnlen_user Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] fs, arm64: untag user address in copy_mount_options Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] arm64: update Documentation/arm64/tagged-pointers.txt Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-03 17:32   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-03 17:32     ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-10 14:09     ` Andrey Konovalov [this message]
2018-10-10 14:09       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-18 17:31       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-18 17:31         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] selftests, arm64: add a selftest for passing tagged pointers to kernel Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-02 13:12   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-03 13:31 ` [PATCH v7 0/8] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel Luc Van Oostenryck
2018-10-03 13:31   ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2018-10-17 14:06 ` Vincenzo Frascino
2018-10-17 14:06   ` Vincenzo Frascino
2018-10-17 14:20   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-17 14:20     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-10-17 20:25     ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-10-17 20:25       ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-10-18 17:33       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-18 17:33         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19  9:04       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2018-10-19  9:04         ` Vincenzo Frascino

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