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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>, x86@kernel.org
Cc: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 11/13] x86/uintr: Introduce uintr_wait() syscall
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 16:41:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874ka7csce.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210913200132.3396598-12-sohil.mehta@intel.com>

On Mon, Sep 13 2021 at 13:01, Sohil Mehta wrote:
> Add a new system call to allow applications to block in the kernel and
> wait for user interrupts.
>
> <The current implementation doesn't support waking up from other
> blocking system calls like sleep(), read(), epoll(), etc.
>
> uintr_wait() is a placeholder syscall while we decide on that
> behaviour.>

Which behaviour? You cannot integrate this into [clock_]nanosleep() by
any means or wakeup something which is blocked in read(somefd) via
SENDUIPI.

What you can do is implement read() and poll() support for the
uintrfd. Anything else is just not going to fly.

Adding support for read/poll is pretty much a straight forward variant
of a correctly implemented wait()/wakeup() mechanism.

While poll()/read() support might be useful and poll() also provides a
timeout, having an explicit (timed) wait mechanism might be interesting.

But that brings me to an interesting question. There are two cases:

 1) The task installed a user space interrupt handler. Now it
    want's to play nice and yield the CPU while waiting.

    So it needs to reinstall the UINV vector on return to user and
    update UIRR, but that'd be covered by the existing mechanism. Fine.

 2) Task has no user space interrupt handler installed and just want's
    to use that wait mechanism.

    What is consuming the pending bit(s)? 

    If that's not a valid use case, then the wait has to check for that
    and reject the syscall with EINVAL.

    If it is valid, then how are the pending bits consumed and relayed to
    user space?

The same questions arise when you think about implementing poll/read
support simply because the regular poll/read semantics are:

  poll waits for the event and read consumes the event

which would be similar to #2 above, but with an installed user space
interrupt handler the return from the poll system call would consume the
event immediately (assumed that UIF is set).

Thanks,

        tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-26 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-13 20:01 [RFC PATCH 00/13] x86 User Interrupts support Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] x86/uintr/man-page: Include man pages draft for reference Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for User Interrupts Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] x86/cpu: Enumerate User Interrupts support Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 22:24   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-24 19:59     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-27 20:42     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] x86/fpu/xstate: Enumerate User Interrupts supervisor state Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 22:34   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-27 22:25     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] x86/irq: Reserve a user IPI notification vector Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 23:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-25 13:30     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-26 12:39       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-27 19:07         ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-28  8:11           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-27 19:26     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] x86/uintr: Introduce uintr receiver syscalls Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 12:26   ` Greg KH
2021-09-24  0:05     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-27 23:20     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-28  4:39       ` Greg KH
2021-09-28 16:47         ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 23:52   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-27 23:57     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] x86/process/64: Add uintr task context switch support Sohil Mehta
2021-09-24  0:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-28  0:30     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] x86/process/64: Clean up uintr task fork and exit paths Sohil Mehta
2021-09-24  1:02   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-28  1:23     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] x86/uintr: Introduce vector registration and uintr_fd syscall Sohil Mehta
2021-09-24 10:33   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-28 20:40     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] x86/uintr: Introduce user IPI sender syscalls Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 12:28   ` Greg KH
2021-09-28 18:01     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-29  7:04       ` Greg KH
2021-09-29 14:27         ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-24 10:54   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] x86/uintr: Introduce uintr_wait() syscall Sohil Mehta
2021-09-24 11:04   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-25 12:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-28 23:13       ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-28 23:08     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-26 14:41   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2021-09-29  1:09     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-29  3:30   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29  4:56     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-30 18:08       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-30 19:29         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-30 22:01           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-01  0:01             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-01  4:41               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-01  9:56                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-01 15:13                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-01 18:04                     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-10-01 21:29                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-01 23:00                       ` Sohil Mehta
2021-10-01 23:04                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] x86/uintr: Wire up the user interrupt syscalls Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:01 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] selftests/x86: Add basic tests for User IPI Sohil Mehta
2021-09-13 20:27 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] x86 User Interrupts support Dave Hansen
2021-09-14 19:03   ` Mehta, Sohil
2021-09-23 12:19     ` Greg KH
2021-09-23 14:09       ` Greg KH
2021-09-23 14:46         ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-23 15:07           ` Greg KH
2021-09-23 23:24         ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 23:09       ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-24  0:17       ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-23 14:39 ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-29  4:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-30 16:30   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-09-30 17:24     ` Sohil Mehta
2021-09-30 17:26       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-01 16:35       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-01 16:41         ` Richard Henderson
2021-09-30 16:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-01  0:40   ` Sohil Mehta
2021-10-01  8:19 ` Pavel Machek
2021-11-18 22:19   ` Sohil Mehta
2021-11-16  3:49 ` Prakash Sangappa
2021-11-18 21:44   ` Sohil Mehta
2021-12-22 16:17 ` Chrisma Pakha
2022-01-07  2:08   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-01-17  1:14     ` Chrisma Pakha

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