From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] modules: Create rlimit for module space
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:09:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez383rjt+v_DvLF902X33od_SwMh8dZ-6=w1DZ-YPZ_U9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <657e6d0ada18e8ca0350bc6b3a80c49b3c0b341c.camel@intel.com>
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 2:04 AM Edgecombe, Rick P
<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 19:22 +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:04 PM Edgecombe, Rick P
> > <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 02:35 +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > > > Why all the rbtree stuff instead of stashing a pointer in struct
> > > > vmap_area, or something like that?
> > >
> > > Since the tracking was not for all vmalloc usage, the intention was to not
> > > bloat
> > > the structure for other usages likes stacks. I thought usually there
> > > wouldn't be
> > > nearly as much module space allocations as there would be kernel stacks, but
> > > I
> > > didn't do any actual measurements on the tradeoffs.
> >
> > I imagine that one extra pointer in there - pointing to your struct
> > mod_alloc_user - would probably not be terrible. 8 bytes more per
> > kernel stack shouldn't be so bad?
>
> I looked into this and it starts to look a little messy. The nommu.c version of
> vmalloc doesn't use or expose access to vmap_area or vm_struct. So it starts to
> look like a bunch of IFDEFs to remove the rlimit in the nommu case or making a
> stand in that maintains pretend vm struct's in nommu.c. I had actually
> previously tried to at least pull the allocations size from vmalloc structs, but it broke on nommu.
>
> Thought I would check back and see. How important do you think this is?
I don't think it's important - I just thought that it would be nice to
avoid the extra complexity if it is easily avoidable.
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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
jeyu@kernel.org, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
linux-mips@linux-mips.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
kristen@linux.intel.com, deneen.t.dock@intel.com,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
sparclinux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] modules: Create rlimit for module space
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:09:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez383rjt+v_DvLF902X33od_SwMh8dZ-6=w1DZ-YPZ_U9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181013000909.T4q5Z8XV7k52H1hLerCjIdFY1mFBTeE4U82Yu4Xb4Wg@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <657e6d0ada18e8ca0350bc6b3a80c49b3c0b341c.camel@intel.com>
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 2:04 AM Edgecombe, Rick P
<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 19:22 +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:04 PM Edgecombe, Rick P
> > <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 02:35 +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > > > Why all the rbtree stuff instead of stashing a pointer in struct
> > > > vmap_area, or something like that?
> > >
> > > Since the tracking was not for all vmalloc usage, the intention was to not
> > > bloat
> > > the structure for other usages likes stacks. I thought usually there
> > > wouldn't be
> > > nearly as much module space allocations as there would be kernel stacks, but
> > > I
> > > didn't do any actual measurements on the tradeoffs.
> >
> > I imagine that one extra pointer in there - pointing to your struct
> > mod_alloc_user - would probably not be terrible. 8 bytes more per
> > kernel stack shouldn't be so bad?
>
> I looked into this and it starts to look a little messy. The nommu.c version of
> vmalloc doesn't use or expose access to vmap_area or vm_struct. So it starts to
> look like a bunch of IFDEFs to remove the rlimit in the nommu case or making a
> stand in that maintains pretend vm struct's in nommu.c. I had actually
> previously tried to at least pull the allocations size from vmalloc structs, but it broke on nommu.
>
> Thought I would check back and see. How important do you think this is?
I don't think it's important - I just thought that it would be nice to
avoid the extra complexity if it is easily avoidable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-13 0:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-11 23:31 [PATCH v2 0/7] Rlimit for module space Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] modules: Create rlimit " Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-12 0:35 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-12 0:35 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-12 17:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-12 17:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-12 17:22 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-12 17:22 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-13 0:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-13 0:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-13 0:09 ` Jann Horn [this message]
2018-10-13 0:09 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-23 11:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-23 11:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-12 18:23 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-12 18:23 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-11 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] x86/modules: Add rlimit checking for x86 modules Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] arm/modules: Add rlimit checking for arm modules Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] arm64/modules: Add rlimit checking for arm64 modules Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:47 ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-11 23:47 ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-12 14:32 ` Jessica Yu
2018-10-12 14:32 ` Jessica Yu
2018-10-12 22:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-12 22:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-12 22:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-12 22:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-10-11 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] mips/modules: Add rlimit checking for mips modules Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] sparc/modules: Add rlimit for sparc modules Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] s390/modules: Add rlimit checking for s390 modules Rick Edgecombe
2018-10-11 23:31 ` Rick Edgecombe
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