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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xuefeng Li <lixuefeng@loongson.cn>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/19] LoongArch: Add misc common routines
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 13:43:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a02R988LdN4Cshhp=sAnwKS+GOwwWwRfvprm36eTb2YqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAhV-H6PDr=YZdc=2NJ6hceE7HoKB-WcUHi3GEgtfO8nbxOV3g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:41 PM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:22 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn> wrote:
> > > +static inline unsigned long __cmpxchg(volatile void *ptr, unsigned long old,
> > > +                                     unsigned long new, unsigned int size)
> > > +{
> > > +       switch (size) {
> > > +       case 1:
> > > +       case 2:
> > > +               return __cmpxchg_small(ptr, old, new, size);
> >
> > Same here.
>
> 16bit cmpxchg is used by qspinlock. Yes, you suggest we should not use
> qspinlock, but our test results show that ticket spinlock is even
> worse... So, we want to keep cmpxchg_small() and qspinlock.

Can you explain in detail how that cmpxchg loop provides the necessary
forward progress guarantees to make qspinlock reliable?

As Peter keeps pointing out, usually this is not actually the case, so
faster-but-broken is not a replacement for a simple working version.

If you already have the ticket spinlock implementation, maybe start out
by using that for the initial submission, and then provide an extra
patch to convert it to qspinlock as a follow-up that can be debated
in more detail regarding correctness and performance.

> > > +static inline void __iomem *ioremap_prot(phys_addr_t offset, unsigned long size,
> > > +       unsigned long prot_val)
> > > +{
> > > +       /* This only works for !HIGHMEM currently */
> >
> > Do you support highmem? I would expect new architectures to no longer
> > implement that. Just use a 64-bit kernel on systems with lots of ram.
>
> Emmm, 64-bit kernel doesn't need highmem.

Yes, that was my point: 32-bit user space is fine if you care a lot about
size constraints of DDR2 or older memory. For any system that has
enough memory to require highmem, it is better to just pick a 64-bit
kernel to start with, if the CPU allows it.

> > > +#define ioremap(offset, size)                                  \
> > > +       ioremap_prot((offset), (size), _CACHE_SUC)
> > > +#define ioremap_uc ioremap
> >
> > Remove ioremap_uc(), it should never be called here.
> It is used by lib/devres.c.

There is a default implementation in include/asm-generic/io.h
that just returns NULL here.

> > > +#define __BUILD_MEMORY_SINGLE(pfx, bwlq, type)                         \
> > > +                                                                       \
> > > +static inline void pfx##write##bwlq(type val,                          \
> > > +                                   volatile void __iomem *mem)         \
> > > +{                                                                      \
> >
> > Please don't add another copy of these macros. Use the version from
> > include/asm-generic, or modify it as needed if it doesn't quite work.
>
> On Loongson platform, we should put a wmb() before MMIO write. The
> generic readw()/readl()/outw()/outl() have wmb(), but the __raw
> versions don't have. I want to know what is the design goal of the
> __raw version, are they supposed to be used in scenarios that the
> ordering needn't be cared?

The __raw versions are mainly meant for accessing memory from
platform specific driver code. They don't provide any particular
endianness or ordering guarantees and generally cannot be used
in portable drivers.

Note that a full wmb() should not be needed, you only have to serialize
between prior memory accesses and a DMA triggered by the device,
but not between multiple CPUs here.

      Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-23 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-06  4:18 [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 01/19] LoongArch: Add elf-related definitions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 02/19] LoongArch: Add writecombine support for drm Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 03/19] LoongArch: Add build infrastructure Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19  1:26     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-19  7:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19 13:02         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  0:00   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-07-19  1:28     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 05/19] LoongArch: Add boot and setup routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 11:53     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-27 12:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 12:51         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 13:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 16:22             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 17:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:24                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 06/19] LoongArch: Add exception/interrupt handling Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07 13:56     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-07-27 14:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 15:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:16           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-28 12:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 07/19] LoongArch: Add process management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:17       ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 12:51           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 08/19] LoongArch: Add memory management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:20     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-16  1:57   ` Guo Ren
2021-08-16  3:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 09/19] LoongArch: Add system call support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  4:24     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  6:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  7:00         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09  8:44         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-07  4:27     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:40     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 10/19] LoongArch: Add signal handling support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-08 13:04     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-08 13:23       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09  9:24         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09 10:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09 14:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-09 15:59               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-26 16:43   ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-08-27  4:23     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-27  4:27       ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 11/19] LoongArch: Add elf and module support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 12/19] LoongArch: Add misc common routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-23 10:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-23 11:43       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-07-24 12:53         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 13/19] LoongArch: Add some library functions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:22     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 14/19] LoongArch: Add 64-bit Loongson platform Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 15/19] LoongArch: Add PCI controller support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:29     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 16/19] LoongArch: Add VDSO and VSYSCALL support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 17/19] LoongArch: Add multi-processor (SMP) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:39     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 11:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 18/19] LoongArch: Add Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:46     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 19/19] LoongArch: Add Loongson-3 default config file Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:58     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:11 ` [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  3:04   ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  7:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-29 16:48       ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-30 20:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <20210706041820.1536502-5-chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
2021-07-06 10:16   ` [PATCH 04/19] LoongArch: Add common headers Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:05     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  3:30         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  7:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  8:14             ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  9:08               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-14  2:50                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-15  8:56                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-16  4:10                     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-18  9:38                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-20  4:00                         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-20  7:55                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-21  8:16                             ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:54   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 12:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 13:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra

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