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From: Jan Dakinevich <jan.dakinevich@salutedevices.com>
To: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
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	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
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	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] dt-bindings: clock: meson: document A1 SoC audio clock controller driver
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:31:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0272deb1-5427-4805-a6f1-df223a5c14f5@salutedevices.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1jzftlakgg.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com>



On 4/22/24 10:57, Jerome Brunet wrote:
> 
> On Mon 22 Apr 2024 at 09:16, Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun 21 Apr 2024 at 20:14, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/04/2024 18:15, Jan Dakinevich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/20/24 00:09, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 03:58:10PM +0300, Jan Dakinevich wrote:
>>>>>> Add device tree bindings for A1 SoC audio clock and reset controllers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Dakinevich <jan.dakinevich@salutedevices.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This controller has 6 mandatory and up to 20 optional clocks. To describe
>>>>>> this, I use 'additionalItems'. It produces correct processed-schema.json:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   "clock-names": {
>>>>>>       "maxItems": 26,
>>>>>>       "items": [
>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>               "const": "pclk"
>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>               "const": "dds_in"
>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>               "const": "fclk_div2"
>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>               "const": "fclk_div3"
>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>               "const": "hifi_pll"
>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>               "const": "xtal"
>>>>>>           }
>>>>>>       ],
>>>>>>       "additionalItems": {
>>>>>>           "oneOf": [
>>>>>>               {
>>>>>>                   "pattern": "^slv_sclk[0-9]$"
>>>>>>               },
>>>>>>               {
>>>>>>                   "pattern": "^slv_lrclk[0-9]$"
>>>>>>               }
>>>>>>           ]
>>>>>>       },
>>>>>>       "type": "array",
>>>>>>       "minItems": 6
>>>>>>   },
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it behaves as expected. However, the checking is followed by
>>>>>> complaints like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/clock/amlogic,a1-audio-clkc.yaml: properties:clock-names:additionalItems: {'oneOf': [{'pattern': '^slv_sclk[0-9]$'}, {'pattern': '^slv_lrclk[0-9]$'}]} is not of type 'boolean'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And indeed, 'additionalItems' has boolean type in meta-schema. So, how to
>>>>>> do it right?
>>>>>
>>>>> The meta-schemas are written both to prevent nonsense that json-schema 
>>>>> allows by default (e.g additionalitems (wrong case)) and constraints to 
>>>>> follow the patterns we expect. I'm happy to loosen the latter case if 
>>>>> there's really a need. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally, most bindings shouldn't be using 'additionalItems' at all as 
>>>>> all entries should be defined, but there's a few exceptions. Here, the 
>>>>> only reasoning I see is 26 entries is a lot to write out, but that 
>>>>> wouldn't really justify it. 
>>>>
>>>> Writing a lot of entries don't scary me too much, but the reason is that
>>>> the existence of optional clock sources depends on schematics. Also, we
>>>
>>> Aren't you documenting SoC component, not a board? So how exactly it
>>> depends on schematics? SoC is done or not done...
>>>
>>>> unable to declare dt-nodes for 'clocks' array in any generic way,
>>>> because their declaration would depends on that what is actually
>>>> connected to the SoC (dt-node could be "fixed-clock" with specific rate
>>>> or something else).
>>>
>>> So these are clock inputs to the SoC?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, possibly.
>> Like an external crystal or a set clocks provided by an external codec
>> where the codec is the clock master of the link.
>>
>> This is same case as the AXG that was discussed here:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20230808194811.113087-1-alexander.stein@mailbox.org/
>>
>> IMO, like the AXG, only the pclk is a required clock.
>> All the others - master and slave clocks - are optional.
>> The controller is designed to operate with grounded inputs
> 
> Looking again at the implementation of the controller, there is a clear
> indication in patch 3 that the controller interface is the same as the
> AXG and that the above statement is true.
> > The AXG had 8 master clocks wired in. The A1 just has 5 - and 3 grounded
> master clocks. This is why you to had to provide a mux input table to
> skip the grounded inputs. You would not have to do so if the controller was
> properly declared with the 8 master clock input, as it actually is.
> 

For simplicity, I could make something like this in device tree:

clocks = <&clk0,
          &clk1,
          &clk2,
          &clk3,
          &clk4,
          0,
          0,
          0>
clock-names = <"mst_in0",
               "mst_in1",
               "mst_in2"
               "mst_in2"
               "mst_in3"
               "mst_in4"
               "mst_in5"
               "mst_in6"
               "mst_in7">

But I don't see in the doc that the last 3 clocks are grounded to
anywhere. It will be just community's assumption about internals of the
controller.

Anyway, I still don't understand what to do with external slv_* clocks.
I can do the same as in example above: list slv_(s|lr)clk[0-9] in
"clock-names" and fill the rest if "clocks" by "0" phandles.

> It also shows that it is a bad idea to name input after what is coming
> in (like you do with "dds_in" or "fclk_div2") instead of what they
> actually are like in the AXG (mst0, mst1, etc ...)
> 

I agree, these are not the best names.

>>
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I don't know any example (neither for A1 SoC nor for other
>>>> Amlogic's SoCs) where these optional clocks are used, but they are
>>>> allowed by hw.
>>
>> Those scenario exists and have been tested. There is just no dts using
>> that upstream because they are all mostly copy of the AML ref design.
>>
>>>>
>>>> This is my understanding of this controller. I hope, Jerome Brunet will
>>>> clarify how it actually works.
>>>
>>
>> I think the simpliest way to deal with this to just list all the clocks
>> with 'minItems = 1'. It is going be hard to read with a lot of '<0>,' in
>> the DTS when do need those slave clocks but at least the binding doc
>> will be simple.
>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Krzysztof
>>
>> If you are going ahead with this, please name the file
>> amlogic,axg-audio-clkc.yaml because this is really the first controller
>> of the type and is meant to be documented in the same file.
>>
>> You are free to handle the conversion of the AXG at the same time if
>> you'd like. It would be much appreciated if you do.
> 
> 

-- 
Best regards
Jan Dakinevich

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-22 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-19 12:58 [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] Add A1 Soc audio clock controller driver Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-19 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/6] reset: reset-meson-audio: introduce separate driver Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-22  7:46   ` Jerome Brunet
2024-05-14 18:33     ` Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-19 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/6] clk: meson: axg: share the set of audio helper macro Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-19 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] clk: meson: axg: introduce AUD_MUX_TABLE() " Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-22  8:09   ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-19 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] dt-bindings: clock: meson: document A1 SoC audio clock controller driver Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-19 14:06   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-04-20 14:48     ` Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-21 14:02       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-04-21 15:35         ` Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-21 18:17           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-04-22  7:43       ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-19 16:44   ` Rob Herring
2024-04-19 21:09   ` Rob Herring
2024-04-20 16:15     ` Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-21 18:14       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-04-21 21:03         ` Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-22  7:16         ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-22  7:57           ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-22 14:31             ` Jan Dakinevich [this message]
2024-04-22 15:38               ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-22 15:43               ` Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-22  7:40   ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-19 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] clk: meson: a1: add the " Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-22  7:53   ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-22 13:49     ` Jan Dakinevich
2024-04-19 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] arm64: dts: meson: a1: add the audio clock controller Jan Dakinevich

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