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* [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
@ 2021-02-12  9:59 Peter Hilber
  2021-02-15 13:20 ` Cristian Marussi
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Hilber @ 2021-02-12  9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: virtio-comment
  Cc: virtio-dev, Souvik.Chakravarty, jean-philippe, Peter Hilber,
	cristian.marussi, Sudeep.Holla, alex.bennee, linux-arm-kernel

This patch proposes a new virtio device for the Arm SCMI protocol.

The device provides a simple transport for the Arm SCMI protocol[1]. The
*S*ystem *C*ontrol and *M*anagement *I*nterface protocol allows speaking
to system controllers that allow orchestrating things like power
management, system state management and sensor access. The SCMI protocol
is used on SoCs where multiple cores and co-processors need access to
these resources.

The virtio transport allows making use of this protocol in virtualized
systems.

[1] https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0056/c

Signed-off-by: Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@opensynergy.com>
---

Notes:

    Since sending out v5 in May 2020, there has been no additional
    feedback w.r.t. the spec. An RfC patch series for the driver is now
    available at [1]. OpenSynergy also has a proprietary implementation
    of the device (without the VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY feature so
    far).

    So I would like to request a vote on adding the device in a few weeks.
    
    The PDF output is available at [2].
    
    [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20201105212116.411422-1-peter.hilber@opensynergy.com/
    [2] https://share.mailbox.org/ajax/share/056076e70571144f50c4ca7571144b319a1d7236dda1cd3b/1/8/MzQ/MzQvMQ

    Changes for v6:

    - Refer to new SCMI spec version 3.0 (DEN0056C), which has a
      provision for SHM race conditions.

    - Resolve conflicts with other added device documentation.

    Changes for v5:
    
    - Remove requirements on shared memory added in v4, since an upcoming
    new version of the Arm SCMI spec[1] will provide a generic, more
    powerful way to handle concurrent access to shared memory.
    
    Changes for v4:
    
    - Add more requirements on shared memory regions after feedback from
      Alex Bennée.
    
    Changes for v3:
    
    - Add tentative device ID 32 in device section.
    
    - Remove redundant 'len' fields. The length of the payload fields can
      already be deduced from the generic virtqueue 'len' fields. Therefore,
      remove the redundant device-specific 'len' fields.
    
    - Reword requirement that driver must not put too small buffers into
      eventq.
    
    Changes for v2:
    
    - CC virtio-dev list.
    - Define size of erroneous delayed/not delayed responses.
    - Use correct long name for SCMI.
    - Remove restriction to `embedded' in commit message.
    - Add motivation for conceptual per-message-channels.
    - Device may now just drop notification if no buffers are available.
    

 conformance.tex  |  34 ++++--
 content.tex      |   1 +
 introduction.tex |   3 +
 virtio-scmi.tex  | 271 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 4 files changed, 303 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 virtio-scmi.tex

diff --git a/conformance.tex b/conformance.tex
index 17c390d..a164cbb 100644
--- a/conformance.tex
+++ b/conformance.tex
@@ -27,9 +27,10 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
 \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Socket Driver Conformance},
 \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / RPMB Driver Conformance},
 \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / IOMMU Driver Conformance},
-\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Sound Driver Conformance}
-\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Memory Driver Conformance} or
-\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / I2C Adapter Driver Conformance}.
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Sound Driver Conformance},
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Memory Driver Conformance},
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / I2C Adapter Driver Conformance} or
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / SCMI Driver Conformance}.
 
     \item Clause \ref{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}.
   \end{itemize}
@@ -49,9 +50,10 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
 \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Socket Device Conformance}, 
 \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / RPMB Device Conformance},
 \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / IOMMU Device Conformance},
-\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Sound Device Conformance}
-\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Memory Device Conformance} or
-\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / I2C Adapter Device Conformance}.
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Sound Device Conformance},
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Memory Device Conformance},
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / I2C Adapter Device Conformance} or
+\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / SCMI Device Conformance}.
 
     \item Clause \ref{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}.
   \end{itemize}
@@ -277,6 +279,15 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
 \item \ref{drivernormative:Device Types / I2C Adapter Device / Device Operation}
 \end{itemize}
 
+\conformance{\subsection}{SCMI Driver Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / SCMI Driver Conformance}
+
+An SCMI driver MUST conform to the following normative statements:
+
+\begin{itemize}
+\item \ref{drivernormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
+\item \ref{drivernormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Setting Up eventq Buffers}
+\end{itemize}
+
 \conformance{\section}{Device Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance}
 
 A device MUST conform to the following normative statements:
@@ -505,6 +516,17 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
 \item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / I2C Adapter Device / Device Operation}
 \end{itemize}
 
+\conformance{\subsection}{SCMI Device Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / SCMI Device Conformance}
+
+An SCMI device MUST conform to the following normative statements:
+
+\begin{itemize}
+\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
+\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
+\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / eventq Operation}
+\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Shared Memory Operation}
+\end{itemize}
+
 \conformance{\section}{Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}
 A conformant implementation MUST be either transitional or
 non-transitional, see \ref{intro:Legacy
diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
index 835f1ea..40ab30a 100644
--- a/content.tex
+++ b/content.tex
@@ -6532,6 +6532,7 @@ \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Framing Requirements}\label{sec:Device
 \input{virtio-sound.tex}
 \input{virtio-mem.tex}
 \input{virtio-i2c.tex}
+\input{virtio-scmi.tex}
 
 \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
 
diff --git a/introduction.tex b/introduction.tex
index bc0217f..7204b24 100644
--- a/introduction.tex
+++ b/introduction.tex
@@ -76,6 +76,9 @@ \section{Normative References}\label{sec:Normative References}
 	\phantomsection\label{intro:I2C}\textbf{[I2C]} &
 	I2C-bus specification and user manual,
 	\newline\url{https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf}\\
+	\phantomsection\label{intro:SCMI}\textbf{[SCMI]} &
+	Arm System Control and Management Interface, DEN0056,
+	\newline\url{https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0056/c}, version C and any future revisions\\
 
 \end{longtable}
 
diff --git a/virtio-scmi.tex b/virtio-scmi.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..c4b8dd0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/virtio-scmi.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,271 @@
+\section{SCMI Device}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device}
+
+An SCMI device implements the Arm System Control and Management
+Interface (SCMI). SCMI can be used for sensors, power state management,
+clock management and performance management among other things.
+
+This section relies on definitions from the \hyperref[intro:SCMI]{SCMI
+specification}.
+
+Virtio SCMI device and driver are mapped to SCMI platform and agent
+respectively. The device is visible to a particular SCMI agent. The
+device allows a guest to communicate as an SCMI agent using one or more
+SCMI protocols. The default SCMI protocols are defined in the
+\hyperref[intro:SCMI]{SCMI specification}. Virtio provides a transport
+medium for exchanging SCMI messages between the SCMI agent and platform.
+The virtio SCMI transport allows the queueing of multiple messages and
+responses.
+
+SCMI FastChannels are not supported.
+
+\subsection{Device ID}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device ID}
+
+32
+
+\subsection{Virtqueues}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Virtqueues}
+
+\begin{description}
+\item[0] cmdq
+\item[1] eventq
+\end{description}
+
+The cmdq is used by the driver to send commands to the device. The
+device replies with responses (not delayed responses) over the cmdq.
+
+The eventq is used by the device to send notifications and delayed
+responses. The eventq only exists if VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was
+negotiated.
+
+\subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
+
+\begin{description}
+\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS (0)] Device implements some SCMI
+notifications, or delayed responses.
+\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY (1)] Device implements any SCMI
+statistics shared memory region.
+\end{description}
+
+VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS is used to determine the existence of the
+eventq. The eventq is required for SCMI notifications and delayed
+responses.
+
+VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY is used to determine whether the device
+provides any SCMI statistics shared memory region. SCMI statistics
+shared memory regions are defined by some SCMI protocols.
+
+The SCMI protocols provide the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES commands to
+inquire about the particular SCMI notifications and delayed responses
+implemented by the device. The SCMI protocols provide additional
+commands to detect other features implemented by the device.
+
+\devicenormative{\subsubsection}{Feature bits}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
+
+The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS if the device can
+implement at least one SCMI notification, or delayed response.
+
+The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY if the device can
+implement at least one SCMI statistics shared memory region.
+
+\subsection{Device configuration layout}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device configuration layout}
+
+There is no configuration data for the device.
+
+\subsection{Device Initialization}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Initialization}
+
+The
+\hyperref[sec:General Initialization And Device Operation / Device Initialization]{general
+requirements on device initialization} apply.
+
+\subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation}
+
+The SCMI transport used for the device puts each SCMI message into a
+dedicated virtio buffer. The driver uses the cmdq for transmitting SCMI
+commands and receiving the corresponding SCMI responses. The device uses
+the eventq for transmitting SCMI notifications and delayed responses.
+Each message includes an SCMI protocol header and payload, as defined by
+the \hyperref[intro:SCMI]{SCMI specification}.
+
+\subsubsection{cmdq Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
+
+Each buffer in the cmdq holds a single SCMI command once the buffer has
+been made available. When the buffer has been marked as used, it
+contains the SCMI response. An arbitrary number of such SCMI messages
+can be in transit at the same time. Conceptually, each SCMI message in
+the cmdq uses its own SCMI A2P (agent to platform) channel.
+
+The SCMI response is in the same virtio buffer as the corresponding SCMI
+command. The response contains the return values which SCMI specifies
+for each command, whether synchronous or asynchronous. Delayed responses
+are distinct SCMI messages transmitted over the eventq.
+
+Buffers in the cmdq contain both the request and the response. A request
+has the following layout:
+
+\begin{lstlisting}
+struct virtio_scmi_request {
+        le32 hdr;
+        u8 params[<actual parameters size>];
+};
+\end{lstlisting}
+
+The virtio_scmi_request fields are interpreted as follows:
+
+\begin{description}
+\item[\field{hdr}] (device-readable) contains the SCMI message header
+\item[\field{params}] (device-readable) comprises the SCMI message
+parameters
+\end{description}
+
+A cmdq response has the following layout:
+
+\begin{lstlisting}
+struct virtio_scmi_response {
+        le32 hdr;
+        u8 ret_values[<actual return values size>];
+};
+\end{lstlisting}
+
+The virtio_scmi_response fields are interpreted as follows:
+
+\begin{description}
+\item[\field{hdr}] (device-writable) contains the SCMI message header
+\item[\field{ret_values}] (device-writable) comprises the SCMI message
+return values
+\end{description}
+
+If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device responds to
+SCMI commands as if no SCMI notifications or delayed responses were
+implemented.
+
+\devicenormative{\paragraph}{cmdq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
+
+The device MAY process available commands out of order and in parallel.
+
+The device MUST process all available commands eventually, even in the
+case of bursts of multiple command messages.
+
+If the \field{status} field in the \field{virtio_scmi_response}
+\field{ret_values} has a value other than SUCCESS, the device MUST set
+the size of \field{ret_values} to the size of the \field{status} field.
+
+If the driver requests an SCMI notification or a delayed response and
+there are currently NOT enough available buffers in the eventq, the
+device SHOULD still return SCMI status code SUCCESS.
+
+If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device MUST deny
+any request for an SCMI notification or a delayed response by returning
+SCMI status code NOT_SUPPORTED.
+
+If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device MUST NOT
+indicate in the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES return values that any SCMI
+notification, or delayed response, is implemented.
+
+\drivernormative{\paragraph}{cmdq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
+
+Before sending a command, the driver MUST wait for responses to all
+commands whose completion the driver considers prerequisites to
+executing the command.
+
+With every command message, the driver MUST provide enough
+device-writable memory to enable the device to return corresponding
+return values.
+
+If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the driver MUST NOT
+request any SCMI notification, nor any delayed response.
+
+\subsubsection{Setting Up eventq Buffers}
+
+The driver has to populate the eventq before the device can use it.
+
+\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Setting Up eventq Buffers}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Setting Up eventq Buffers}
+
+If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was negotiated, the driver SHOULD populate
+the eventq with buffers.
+
+The driver MUST NOT put device-readable descriptors into the eventq.
+
+The driver MUST NOT put into the eventq any buffer which is smaller than
+the largest SCMI P2A (platform to agent) message which the driver will
+request.
+
+\subsubsection{eventq Operation}
+
+Each buffer in the eventq holds (once the buffer is marked as used)
+either a single SCMI notification, or a single SCMI delayed response. An
+arbitrary number of such SCMI messages can be in transit at the same
+time. Conceptually, each SCMI message transmitted over the eventq uses
+its own SCMI P2A (platform to agent) channel. Buffers in the eventq have
+the following layout:
+
+\begin{lstlisting}
+struct virtio_scmi_event_msg {
+        /* start of device-writable data */
+        le32 hdr;
+        u8 payload[<actual payload size>];
+};
+\end{lstlisting}
+
+\begin{description}
+\item[\field{hdr}] (device-writable) contains the SCMI message header
+\item[\field{payload}] (device-writable) comprises the SCMI message
+payload
+\end{description}
+
+\devicenormative{\paragraph}{eventq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / eventq Operation}
+
+If the device intends to send a notification and there are no available
+buffers in the eventq, the device MAY drop the notification, or send a
+corresponding notification later, once enough buffers become available.
+
+The device MAY send the notification later if the events which cause the
+notification take place in quick succession.
+
+If the device sends the notification later, the device MAY send the
+notification with updated data, unless the specific SCMI protocol
+disallows this.
+
+If the device intends to send a notification and there are available
+buffers, but one of the buffers is too small to fit the notification,
+the device MAY omit the notification.
+
+If the device intends to send a delayed response and there are no
+available buffers in the eventq, the device MUST send the corresponding
+delayed response once enough buffers become available.
+
+If the \field{status} field in a delayed response \field{payload} has a
+value other than SUCCESS, the device MUST set the size of
+\field{payload} to the size of the \field{status} field.
+
+\subsubsection{Shared Memory Operation}
+
+Various SCMI protocols define statistics shared memory regions (for
+statistics and sensor values).
+
+\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Shared Memory Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Shared Memory Operation}
+
+If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY was negotiated, the device MAY implement
+an SCMI statistics shared memory region using a virtio shared memory
+region.
+
+If the device implements a shared memory region, the device MUST assign
+the corresponding shmid as per the following table:
+
+\begin{tabular}{|l|l|}
+\hline
+SCMI statistics shared memory region & Virtio shmid \\
+\hline \hline
+Reserved (invalid) & 0 \\
+\hline
+Power state statistics shared memory region & 1 \\
+\hline
+Performance domain statistics shared memory region & 2 \\
+\hline
+Sensor Values Shared Memory & 3 \\
+\hline
+Reserved for future use & 4 to 0x7F \\
+\hline
+Vendor-specific statistics shared memory regions & 0x80 to 0xFF \\
+\hline
+Reserved for future use & 0x100 and greater \\
+\hline
+\end{tabular}

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* Re: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-12  9:59 [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification Peter Hilber
@ 2021-02-15 13:20 ` Cristian Marussi
  2021-02-16 15:11   ` Peter Hilber
  2021-02-16 16:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
  2021-03-11 17:19 ` Peter Hilber
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Cristian Marussi @ 2021-02-15 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Hilber
  Cc: virtio-dev, Souvik.Chakravarty, jean-philippe, virtio-comment,
	Sudeep.Holla, alex.bennee, linux-arm-kernel

Hi Peter,

just one remark down below.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:59:20AM +0100, Peter Hilber wrote:
> This patch proposes a new virtio device for the Arm SCMI protocol.
> 
> The device provides a simple transport for the Arm SCMI protocol[1]. The
> *S*ystem *C*ontrol and *M*anagement *I*nterface protocol allows speaking
> to system controllers that allow orchestrating things like power
> management, system state management and sensor access. The SCMI protocol
> is used on SoCs where multiple cores and co-processors need access to
> these resources.
> 
> The virtio transport allows making use of this protocol in virtualized
> systems.
> 
> [1] https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0056/c
> 
> Signed-off-by: Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@opensynergy.com>
> ---
> 
> Notes:
> 
>     Since sending out v5 in May 2020, there has been no additional
>     feedback w.r.t. the spec. An RfC patch series for the driver is now
>     available at [1]. OpenSynergy also has a proprietary implementation
>     of the device (without the VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY feature so
>     far).
> 
>     So I would like to request a vote on adding the device in a few weeks.
>     
>     The PDF output is available at [2].
>     
>     [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20201105212116.411422-1-peter.hilber@opensynergy.com/
>     [2] https://share.mailbox.org/ajax/share/056076e70571144f50c4ca7571144b319a1d7236dda1cd3b/1/8/MzQ/MzQvMQ
> 
>     Changes for v6:
> 
>     - Refer to new SCMI spec version 3.0 (DEN0056C), which has a
>       provision for SHM race conditions.
> 
>     - Resolve conflicts with other added device documentation.
> 
>     Changes for v5:
>     
>     - Remove requirements on shared memory added in v4, since an upcoming
>     new version of the Arm SCMI spec[1] will provide a generic, more
>     powerful way to handle concurrent access to shared memory.
>     
>     Changes for v4:
>     
>     - Add more requirements on shared memory regions after feedback from
>       Alex Bennée.
>     
>     Changes for v3:
>     
>     - Add tentative device ID 32 in device section.
>     
>     - Remove redundant 'len' fields. The length of the payload fields can
>       already be deduced from the generic virtqueue 'len' fields. Therefore,
>       remove the redundant device-specific 'len' fields.
>     
>     - Reword requirement that driver must not put too small buffers into
>       eventq.
>     
>     Changes for v2:
>     
>     - CC virtio-dev list.
>     - Define size of erroneous delayed/not delayed responses.
>     - Use correct long name for SCMI.
>     - Remove restriction to `embedded' in commit message.
>     - Add motivation for conceptual per-message-channels.
>     - Device may now just drop notification if no buffers are available.
>     
> 
>  conformance.tex  |  34 ++++--
>  content.tex      |   1 +
>  introduction.tex |   3 +
>  virtio-scmi.tex  | 271 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  4 files changed, 303 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 virtio-scmi.tex
> 

[snip]

> +The cmdq is used by the driver to send commands to the device. The
> +device replies with responses (not delayed responses) over the cmdq.
> +
> +The eventq is used by the device to send notifications and delayed
> +responses. The eventq only exists if VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was
> +negotiated.
> +
> +\subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS (0)] Device implements some SCMI
> +notifications, or delayed responses.
> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY (1)] Device implements any SCMI
> +statistics shared memory region.
> +\end{description}
> +
> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS is used to determine the existence of the
> +eventq. The eventq is required for SCMI notifications and delayed
> +responses.
> +
> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY is used to determine whether the device
> +provides any SCMI statistics shared memory region. SCMI statistics
> +shared memory regions are defined by some SCMI protocols.
> +
> +The SCMI protocols provide the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES commands to
> +inquire about the particular SCMI notifications and delayed responses
> +implemented by the device. The SCMI protocols provide additional
> +commands to detect other features implemented by the device.
> +
> +\devicenormative{\subsubsection}{Feature bits}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
> +
> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS if the device can
> +implement at least one SCMI notification, or delayed response.
> +
> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY if the device can
> +implement at least one SCMI statistics shared memory region.
> +
> +\subsection{Device configuration layout}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device configuration layout}
> +
> +There is no configuration data for the device.
> +

I could be missing something here, so I apologize upfront if this has
already been discussed elsewhere, but AFAIU the fact that no device
configuration is exposed here (like a device ID) implies that SCMI devices
are not "identifiable" from within the VirtIO subsystem, so not
distinguishable in other words.

At the same time in the companion RFC driver series it has been already
also ruled out (as of now at least) by the DT maintainer the possibility
to establish a link at the DT level between an SCMI virtio-mmio device
definition and the SCMI related DT descriptions (because, AFAIU, it's not
something needed by any of all the other existent VirtIO devices that are
indeed usually somehow 'identifiable')

These 2 things combined together rule out any future possibility to have
multiple SCMI devices defined on a system (at least not identifiable/usable)
in order to support multiple distinct transport channels against the same
platform (or, less desirable, multiple platforms), and in fact the SCMI virtio
transport RFC driver as of now states upfront that only one device/once channel
configuration is supported.

Even if not the norm probably, I would say that could be useful to leave
open for the future the possibility to redirect some protocols down through
a specific distinct VirtIO channel (other than the main one), at least for
debug/testing purposes if not to support multiple platform residing in
distinct VMs.
Another use case could be separating the transport channel used by some
possibly chatty protocol like Sensors (possibly flooding the system with
lots of notifications) from other SCMI protocols, that could benefit from
having a dedicated quieter virtio-mmio SCMI device channel (with dedicated
IRQs and friends...)

Beside that, also the general fact that this SCMI transport does not support
multiple channels is a bit at odd with all the other SCMI transports
(like mailbox/svc that, it's to be said, are indeed based instead on
shared memory)

So, what I'm saying here is if it's not the case of having some sort of
device_id in the configuration space, so that a platform could expose,
if it wants, multiple identifiable devices and the agents could pick the
device they want and associate with a specific protocol.
(via some DT transport reference to the desired SCMI device_id to use,
 similarly to what's possible with shared mems transports)

But, as said, it could have been already discussed and ruled out so feel
free to ignore this and point me at the related pre-existing discussion
threads.

Thanks

Cristian


> +\subsection{Device Initialization}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Initialization}
> +
> +The
> +\hyperref[sec:General Initialization And Device Operation / Device Initialization]{general
> +requirements on device initialization} apply.
> +
> +\subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation}
> +
> +The SCMI transport used for the device puts each SCMI message into a
> +dedicated virtio buffer. The driver uses the cmdq for transmitting SCMI
> +commands and receiving the corresponding SCMI responses. The device uses
> +the eventq for transmitting SCMI notifications and delayed responses.
> +Each message includes an SCMI protocol header and payload, as defined by
> +the \hyperref[intro:SCMI]{SCMI specification}.
> +
> +\subsubsection{cmdq Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +
> +Each buffer in the cmdq holds a single SCMI command once the buffer has
> +been made available. When the buffer has been marked as used, it
> +contains the SCMI response. An arbitrary number of such SCMI messages
> +can be in transit at the same time. Conceptually, each SCMI message in
> +the cmdq uses its own SCMI A2P (agent to platform) channel.
> +
> +The SCMI response is in the same virtio buffer as the corresponding SCMI
> +command. The response contains the return values which SCMI specifies
> +for each command, whether synchronous or asynchronous. Delayed responses
> +are distinct SCMI messages transmitted over the eventq.
> +
> +Buffers in the cmdq contain both the request and the response. A request
> +has the following layout:
> +
> +\begin{lstlisting}
> +struct virtio_scmi_request {
> +        le32 hdr;
> +        u8 params[<actual parameters size>];
> +};
> +\end{lstlisting}
> +
> +The virtio_scmi_request fields are interpreted as follows:
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[\field{hdr}] (device-readable) contains the SCMI message header
> +\item[\field{params}] (device-readable) comprises the SCMI message
> +parameters
> +\end{description}
> +
> +A cmdq response has the following layout:
> +
> +\begin{lstlisting}
> +struct virtio_scmi_response {
> +        le32 hdr;
> +        u8 ret_values[<actual return values size>];
> +};
> +\end{lstlisting}
> +
> +The virtio_scmi_response fields are interpreted as follows:
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[\field{hdr}] (device-writable) contains the SCMI message header
> +\item[\field{ret_values}] (device-writable) comprises the SCMI message
> +return values
> +\end{description}
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device responds to
> +SCMI commands as if no SCMI notifications or delayed responses were
> +implemented.
> +
> +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{cmdq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +
> +The device MAY process available commands out of order and in parallel.
> +
> +The device MUST process all available commands eventually, even in the
> +case of bursts of multiple command messages.
> +
> +If the \field{status} field in the \field{virtio_scmi_response}
> +\field{ret_values} has a value other than SUCCESS, the device MUST set
> +the size of \field{ret_values} to the size of the \field{status} field.
> +
> +If the driver requests an SCMI notification or a delayed response and
> +there are currently NOT enough available buffers in the eventq, the
> +device SHOULD still return SCMI status code SUCCESS.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device MUST deny
> +any request for an SCMI notification or a delayed response by returning
> +SCMI status code NOT_SUPPORTED.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device MUST NOT
> +indicate in the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES return values that any SCMI
> +notification, or delayed response, is implemented.
> +
> +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{cmdq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +
> +Before sending a command, the driver MUST wait for responses to all
> +commands whose completion the driver considers prerequisites to
> +executing the command.
> +
> +With every command message, the driver MUST provide enough
> +device-writable memory to enable the device to return corresponding
> +return values.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the driver MUST NOT
> +request any SCMI notification, nor any delayed response.
> +
> +\subsubsection{Setting Up eventq Buffers}
> +
> +The driver has to populate the eventq before the device can use it.
> +
> +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Setting Up eventq Buffers}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Setting Up eventq Buffers}
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was negotiated, the driver SHOULD populate
> +the eventq with buffers.
> +
> +The driver MUST NOT put device-readable descriptors into the eventq.
> +
> +The driver MUST NOT put into the eventq any buffer which is smaller than
> +the largest SCMI P2A (platform to agent) message which the driver will
> +request.
> +
> +\subsubsection{eventq Operation}
> +
> +Each buffer in the eventq holds (once the buffer is marked as used)
> +either a single SCMI notification, or a single SCMI delayed response. An
> +arbitrary number of such SCMI messages can be in transit at the same
> +time. Conceptually, each SCMI message transmitted over the eventq uses
> +its own SCMI P2A (platform to agent) channel. Buffers in the eventq have
> +the following layout:
> +
> +\begin{lstlisting}
> +struct virtio_scmi_event_msg {
> +        /* start of device-writable data */
> +        le32 hdr;
> +        u8 payload[<actual payload size>];
> +};
> +\end{lstlisting}
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[\field{hdr}] (device-writable) contains the SCMI message header
> +\item[\field{payload}] (device-writable) comprises the SCMI message
> +payload
> +\end{description}
> +
> +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{eventq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / eventq Operation}
> +
> +If the device intends to send a notification and there are no available
> +buffers in the eventq, the device MAY drop the notification, or send a
> +corresponding notification later, once enough buffers become available.
> +
> +The device MAY send the notification later if the events which cause the
> +notification take place in quick succession.
> +
> +If the device sends the notification later, the device MAY send the
> +notification with updated data, unless the specific SCMI protocol
> +disallows this.
> +
> +If the device intends to send a notification and there are available
> +buffers, but one of the buffers is too small to fit the notification,
> +the device MAY omit the notification.
> +
> +If the device intends to send a delayed response and there are no
> +available buffers in the eventq, the device MUST send the corresponding
> +delayed response once enough buffers become available.
> +
> +If the \field{status} field in a delayed response \field{payload} has a
> +value other than SUCCESS, the device MUST set the size of
> +\field{payload} to the size of the \field{status} field.
> +
> +\subsubsection{Shared Memory Operation}
> +
> +Various SCMI protocols define statistics shared memory regions (for
> +statistics and sensor values).
> +
> +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Shared Memory Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Shared Memory Operation}
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY was negotiated, the device MAY implement
> +an SCMI statistics shared memory region using a virtio shared memory
> +region.
> +
> +If the device implements a shared memory region, the device MUST assign
> +the corresponding shmid as per the following table:
> +
> +\begin{tabular}{|l|l|}
> +\hline
> +SCMI statistics shared memory region & Virtio shmid \\
> +\hline \hline
> +Reserved (invalid) & 0 \\
> +\hline
> +Power state statistics shared memory region & 1 \\
> +\hline
> +Performance domain statistics shared memory region & 2 \\
> +\hline
> +Sensor Values Shared Memory & 3 \\
> +\hline
> +Reserved for future use & 4 to 0x7F \\
> +\hline
> +Vendor-specific statistics shared memory regions & 0x80 to 0xFF \\
> +\hline
> +Reserved for future use & 0x100 and greater \\
> +\hline
> +\end{tabular}
> 
> base-commit: f5fd3fca7e4006108b3f9ba91c0b76c5eb6c0726
> -- 
> 2.25.1
> 
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* Re: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-15 13:20 ` Cristian Marussi
@ 2021-02-16 15:11   ` Peter Hilber
  2021-02-16 16:23     ` Cristian Marussi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Hilber @ 2021-02-16 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Cristian Marussi
  Cc: virtio-dev, Souvik.Chakravarty, jean-philippe, virtio-comment,
	Sudeep.Holla, alex.bennee, linux-arm-kernel

On 15.02.21 14:20, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> just one remark down below.
> 

Hi Cristian,

thanks for your comments. Please see my reply inline below.

[snip]

> 
> [snip]
> 
>> +The cmdq is used by the driver to send commands to the device. The
>> +device replies with responses (not delayed responses) over the cmdq.
>> +
>> +The eventq is used by the device to send notifications and delayed
>> +responses. The eventq only exists if VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was
>> +negotiated.
>> +
>> +\subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
>> +
>> +\begin{description}
>> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS (0)] Device implements some SCMI
>> +notifications, or delayed responses.
>> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY (1)] Device implements any SCMI
>> +statistics shared memory region.
>> +\end{description}
>> +
>> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS is used to determine the existence of the
>> +eventq. The eventq is required for SCMI notifications and delayed
>> +responses.
>> +
>> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY is used to determine whether the device
>> +provides any SCMI statistics shared memory region. SCMI statistics
>> +shared memory regions are defined by some SCMI protocols.
>> +
>> +The SCMI protocols provide the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES commands to
>> +inquire about the particular SCMI notifications and delayed responses
>> +implemented by the device. The SCMI protocols provide additional
>> +commands to detect other features implemented by the device.
>> +
>> +\devicenormative{\subsubsection}{Feature bits}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
>> +
>> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS if the device can
>> +implement at least one SCMI notification, or delayed response.
>> +
>> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY if the device can
>> +implement at least one SCMI statistics shared memory region.
>> +
>> +\subsection{Device configuration layout}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device configuration layout}
>> +
>> +There is no configuration data for the device.
>> +
> 
> I could be missing something here, so I apologize upfront if this has
> already been discussed elsewhere, but AFAIU the fact that no device
> configuration is exposed here (like a device ID) implies that SCMI devices
> are not "identifiable" from within the VirtIO subsystem, so not
> distinguishable in other words.
> 
> At the same time in the companion RFC driver series it has been already
> also ruled out (as of now at least) by the DT maintainer the possibility
> to establish a link at the DT level between an SCMI virtio-mmio device
> definition and the SCMI related DT descriptions (because, AFAIU, it's not
> something needed by any of all the other existent VirtIO devices that are
> indeed usually somehow 'identifiable')
> 
> These 2 things combined together rule out any future possibility to have
> multiple SCMI devices defined on a system (at least not identifiable/usable)
> in order to support multiple distinct transport channels against the same
> platform (or, less desirable, multiple platforms), and in fact the SCMI virtio
> transport RFC driver as of now states upfront that only one device/once channel
> configuration is supported.
> 
> Even if not the norm probably, I would say that could be useful to leave
> open for the future the possibility to redirect some protocols down through
> a specific distinct VirtIO channel (other than the main one), at least for
> debug/testing purposes if not to support multiple platform residing in
> distinct VMs.
> Another use case could be separating the transport channel used by some
> possibly chatty protocol like Sensors (possibly flooding the system with
> lots of notifications) from other SCMI protocols, that could benefit from
> having a dedicated quieter virtio-mmio SCMI device channel (with dedicated
> IRQs and friends...)
> 
> Beside that, also the general fact that this SCMI transport does not support
> multiple channels is a bit at odd with all the other SCMI transports
> (like mailbox/svc that, it's to be said, are indeed based instead on
> shared memory)
> 
> So, what I'm saying here is if it's not the case of having some sort of
> device_id in the configuration space, so that a platform could expose,
> if it wants, multiple identifiable devices and the agents could pick the
> device they want and associate with a specific protocol.
> (via some DT transport reference to the desired SCMI device_id to use,
>  similarly to what's possible with shared mems transports)
> 
> But, as said, it could have been already discussed and ruled out so feel
> free to ignore this and point me at the related pre-existing discussion
> threads.
> 

This has not been discussed on the mailing list so far. I think both
features, multiple devices and dedicated transport channels/virtqueues
(similar to the SCMI SHM transport), do make sense, but we at
OpenSynergy do so far not have a use case which requires them. The
multiple devices feature would be straightforward to add in my
understanding (just add an `id' device configuration field). From what
you wrote I understand the dedicated transport channels could just mimic
the SCMI SHM channels scheme from the Linux kernel, with optional
per-protocol channels.

Virtio is extensible through feature bits in a backwards-compatible way,
so I think both features could also be introduced as extensions once
there is a need for them. (This is actually done very often for other
virtio devices.) I guess it would even be very straightforward to
backport these features to older Linux kernels then. Would this option
of introducing feature bits in the future address your concerns?

Best regards,

Peter


> Thanks
> 
> Cristian
> 
>


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* Re: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-12  9:59 [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification Peter Hilber
  2021-02-15 13:20 ` Cristian Marussi
@ 2021-02-16 16:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
  2021-02-16 16:48   ` Souvik Chakravarty
  2021-03-11 17:19 ` Peter Hilber
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin @ 2021-02-16 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Hilber
  Cc: virtio-dev, Souvik.Chakravarty, jean-philippe, virtio-comment,
	linux-arm-kernel, Sudeep.Holla, alex.bennee, cristian.marussi

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:59:20AM +0100, Peter Hilber wrote:
> This patch proposes a new virtio device for the Arm SCMI protocol.
> 
> The device provides a simple transport for the Arm SCMI protocol[1]. The
> *S*ystem *C*ontrol and *M*anagement *I*nterface protocol allows speaking
> to system controllers that allow orchestrating things like power
> management, system state management and sensor access. The SCMI protocol
> is used on SoCs where multiple cores and co-processors need access to
> these resources.
> 
> The virtio transport allows making use of this protocol in virtualized
> systems.
> 
> [1] https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0056/c
> 
> Signed-off-by: Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@opensynergy.com>

I'm not too familiar with SCMI, but I think this question is worth
asking...

If the SCMI protocol can be used to control system level power
management, and if the intention is to expose this firmware interface
to virtualised guests, what prevents a guest from controlling the
power settings for stuff it should not have access to?

For example, if it's possible to tell the system to power down a
critical host component through SCMI, what would prevent a guest
requesting that critical component from having its power cut?

I hope I'm barking up the wrong tree...

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* Re: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-16 15:11   ` Peter Hilber
@ 2021-02-16 16:23     ` Cristian Marussi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Cristian Marussi @ 2021-02-16 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Hilber
  Cc: virtio-dev, Souvik.Chakravarty, jean-philippe, virtio-comment,
	Sudeep.Holla, alex.bennee, linux-arm-kernel

Hi Peter

thanks for your reply.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:11:42PM +0100, Peter Hilber wrote:
> On 15.02.21 14:20, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > just one remark down below.
> > 
> 
> Hi Cristian,
> 
> thanks for your comments. Please see my reply inline below.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> >> +The cmdq is used by the driver to send commands to the device. The
> >> +device replies with responses (not delayed responses) over the cmdq.
> >> +
> >> +The eventq is used by the device to send notifications and delayed
> >> +responses. The eventq only exists if VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was
> >> +negotiated.
> >> +
> >> +\subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
> >> +
> >> +\begin{description}
> >> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS (0)] Device implements some SCMI
> >> +notifications, or delayed responses.
> >> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY (1)] Device implements any SCMI
> >> +statistics shared memory region.
> >> +\end{description}
> >> +
> >> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS is used to determine the existence of the
> >> +eventq. The eventq is required for SCMI notifications and delayed
> >> +responses.
> >> +
> >> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY is used to determine whether the device
> >> +provides any SCMI statistics shared memory region. SCMI statistics
> >> +shared memory regions are defined by some SCMI protocols.
> >> +
> >> +The SCMI protocols provide the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES commands to
> >> +inquire about the particular SCMI notifications and delayed responses
> >> +implemented by the device. The SCMI protocols provide additional
> >> +commands to detect other features implemented by the device.
> >> +
> >> +\devicenormative{\subsubsection}{Feature bits}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
> >> +
> >> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS if the device can
> >> +implement at least one SCMI notification, or delayed response.
> >> +
> >> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY if the device can
> >> +implement at least one SCMI statistics shared memory region.
> >> +
> >> +\subsection{Device configuration layout}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device configuration layout}
> >> +
> >> +There is no configuration data for the device.
> >> +
> > 
> > I could be missing something here, so I apologize upfront if this has
> > already been discussed elsewhere, but AFAIU the fact that no device
> > configuration is exposed here (like a device ID) implies that SCMI devices
> > are not "identifiable" from within the VirtIO subsystem, so not
> > distinguishable in other words.
> > 
> > At the same time in the companion RFC driver series it has been already
> > also ruled out (as of now at least) by the DT maintainer the possibility
> > to establish a link at the DT level between an SCMI virtio-mmio device
> > definition and the SCMI related DT descriptions (because, AFAIU, it's not
> > something needed by any of all the other existent VirtIO devices that are
> > indeed usually somehow 'identifiable')
> > 
> > These 2 things combined together rule out any future possibility to have
> > multiple SCMI devices defined on a system (at least not identifiable/usable)
> > in order to support multiple distinct transport channels against the same
> > platform (or, less desirable, multiple platforms), and in fact the SCMI virtio
> > transport RFC driver as of now states upfront that only one device/once channel
> > configuration is supported.
> > 
> > Even if not the norm probably, I would say that could be useful to leave
> > open for the future the possibility to redirect some protocols down through
> > a specific distinct VirtIO channel (other than the main one), at least for
> > debug/testing purposes if not to support multiple platform residing in
> > distinct VMs.
> > Another use case could be separating the transport channel used by some
> > possibly chatty protocol like Sensors (possibly flooding the system with
> > lots of notifications) from other SCMI protocols, that could benefit from
> > having a dedicated quieter virtio-mmio SCMI device channel (with dedicated
> > IRQs and friends...)
> > 
> > Beside that, also the general fact that this SCMI transport does not support
> > multiple channels is a bit at odd with all the other SCMI transports
> > (like mailbox/svc that, it's to be said, are indeed based instead on
> > shared memory)
> > 
> > So, what I'm saying here is if it's not the case of having some sort of
> > device_id in the configuration space, so that a platform could expose,
> > if it wants, multiple identifiable devices and the agents could pick the
> > device they want and associate with a specific protocol.
> > (via some DT transport reference to the desired SCMI device_id to use,
> >  similarly to what's possible with shared mems transports)
> > 
> > But, as said, it could have been already discussed and ruled out so feel
> > free to ignore this and point me at the related pre-existing discussion
> > threads.
> > 
> 
> This has not been discussed on the mailing list so far. I think both
> features, multiple devices and dedicated transport channels/virtqueues
> (similar to the SCMI SHM transport), do make sense, but we at
> OpenSynergy do so far not have a use case which requires them. The
> multiple devices feature would be straightforward to add in my
> understanding (just add an `id' device configuration field). From what
> you wrote I understand the dedicated transport channels could just mimic
> the SCMI SHM channels scheme from the Linux kernel, with optional
> per-protocol channels.

Yes, I suppose that kind of DT reference, i.e. attaching some transport-id
to a protocol node to identify the SCMI configuration device-id to use as
a channel could have more chances to be accepted since it's not a cross
reference at the DT level between SCMI and virtio...but that's more a hope
on my side than a certainty as of now :D

> 
> Virtio is extensible through feature bits in a backwards-compatible way,
> so I think both features could also be introduced as extensions once
> there is a need for them. (This is actually done very often for other
> virtio devices.) I guess it would even be very straightforward to
> backport these features to older Linux kernels then. Would this option
> of introducing feature bits in the future address your concerns?
> 

Sure, mine remarks were more to understand there were some previous
discussion I missed and raise the point, but I think it makes perfectly
sense for now to leave the spec as it is given you don't have such a use
case in your config, especially if you tell me that VirtIO spec is easily
extensible (both from the technical and procedural point of view)...I was
not sure about that not being so familiar with it so I raised a flag
fearing that this could have become something set in stone as of current
spec.

Thanks for your feedback, unless Souvik has anything specific to add I'm
fine with it.

Regards

Cristian

> Best regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Cristian
> > 
> >
> 

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* RE: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-16 16:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
@ 2021-02-16 16:48   ` Souvik Chakravarty
  2021-02-16 16:57     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Souvik Chakravarty @ 2021-02-16 16:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin, Peter Hilber
  Cc: virtio-dev, jean-philippe, virtio-comment, linux-arm-kernel,
	Sudeep Holla, alex.bennee, Cristian Marussi

> From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:12 PM
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:59:20AM +0100, Peter Hilber wrote:
> > This patch proposes a new virtio device for the Arm SCMI protocol.
> >
> > The device provides a simple transport for the Arm SCMI protocol[1].
> > The *S*ystem *C*ontrol and *M*anagement *I*nterface protocol allows
> > speaking to system controllers that allow orchestrating things like
> > power management, system state management and sensor access. The
> SCMI
> > protocol is used on SoCs where multiple cores and co-processors need
> > access to these resources.
> >
> > The virtio transport allows making use of this protocol in virtualized
> > systems.
> >
> > [1] https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0056/c
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@opensynergy.com>
> 
> I'm not too familiar with SCMI, but I think this question is worth asking...
> 
> If the SCMI protocol can be used to control system level power management,
> and if the intention is to expose this firmware interface to virtualised guests,
> what prevents a guest from controlling the power settings for stuff it should
> not have access to?
> 
> For example, if it's possible to tell the system to power down a critical host
> component through SCMI, what would prevent a guest requesting that
> critical component from having its power cut?

Short summary:
SCMI as a protocol has built in requirements where only the resources (specific clock, sensor etc.)
which are specifically needed by a VM are exposed to it. Resources are mapped by Identifiers and if
the VM tries to access an identifier which it does not have access to, the SCMI backend
can simply ignore or return DENIED. At no point is direct access to any power mgmt. hardware
granted to any VM, nor is a VM supposed to have global access to all system resources.
There is always a firmware backend which controls the hardware and services
SCMI command requests from agents/guests, after due validation. 
The SCMI device/firmware which implements the SCMI backend, is responsible for implementing these
resource isolation guarantees.

Regards,
Souvik

> 
> I hope I'm barking up the wrong tree...
> 
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* Re: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-16 16:48   ` Souvik Chakravarty
@ 2021-02-16 16:57     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
  2021-02-16 17:31       ` Souvik Chakravarty
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin @ 2021-02-16 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Souvik Chakravarty
  Cc: virtio-dev, jean-philippe, Sudeep Holla, Peter Hilber,
	Cristian Marussi, virtio-comment, alex.bennee, linux-arm-kernel

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:48:30PM +0000, Souvik Chakravarty wrote:
> > From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:12 PM
> > I'm not too familiar with SCMI, but I think this question is worth asking...
> > 
> > If the SCMI protocol can be used to control system level power management,
> > and if the intention is to expose this firmware interface to virtualised guests,
> > what prevents a guest from controlling the power settings for stuff it should
> > not have access to?
> > 
> > For example, if it's possible to tell the system to power down a critical host
> > component through SCMI, what would prevent a guest requesting that
> > critical component from having its power cut?
> 
> Short summary:
> SCMI as a protocol has built in requirements where only the resources (specific clock, sensor etc.)
> which are specifically needed by a VM are exposed to it. Resources are mapped by Identifiers and if
> the VM tries to access an identifier which it does not have access to, the SCMI backend
> can simply ignore or return DENIED. At no point is direct access to any power mgmt. hardware
> granted to any VM, nor is a VM supposed to have global access to all system resources.
> There is always a firmware backend which controls the hardware and services
> SCMI command requests from agents/guests, after due validation. 
> The SCMI device/firmware which implements the SCMI backend, is responsible for implementing these
> resource isolation guarantees.

You seem to be saying the SCMI firmware itself is responsible for
implementing this. Given what I've seen from vendors in ATF, this
does not leave me with much confidence that there will be sufficient
security. It concerns me more when you say that the "backend" is
responsible for making these decisions. This doesn't sound good to me.

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* RE: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-16 16:57     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
@ 2021-02-16 17:31       ` Souvik Chakravarty
  2021-02-16 19:26         ` Peter Hilber
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Souvik Chakravarty @ 2021-02-16 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin
  Cc: virtio-dev, jean-philippe, Sudeep Holla, Peter Hilber,
	Cristian Marussi, virtio-comment, alex.bennee, linux-arm-kernel

> From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:57 PM
> 
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:48:30PM +0000, Souvik Chakravarty wrote:
> > > From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:12 PM I'm not too familiar with
> > > SCMI, but I think this question is worth asking...
> > >
> > > If the SCMI protocol can be used to control system level power
> > > management, and if the intention is to expose this firmware
> > > interface to virtualised guests, what prevents a guest from
> > > controlling the power settings for stuff it should not have access to?
> > >
> > > For example, if it's possible to tell the system to power down a
> > > critical host component through SCMI, what would prevent a guest
> > > requesting that critical component from having its power cut?
> >
> > Short summary:
> > SCMI as a protocol has built in requirements where only the resources
> > (specific clock, sensor etc.) which are specifically needed by a VM
> > are exposed to it. Resources are mapped by Identifiers and if the VM
> > tries to access an identifier which it does not have access to, the
> > SCMI backend can simply ignore or return DENIED. At no point is direct
> access to any power mgmt. hardware granted to any VM, nor is a VM
> supposed to have global access to all system resources.
> > There is always a firmware backend which controls the hardware and
> > services SCMI command requests from agents/guests, after due validation.
> > The SCMI device/firmware which implements the SCMI backend, is
> > responsible for implementing these resource isolation guarantees.
> 
> You seem to be saying the SCMI firmware itself is responsible for
> implementing this. Given what I've seen from vendors in ATF, this does not
> leave me with much confidence that there will be sufficient security. It
> concerns me more when you say that the "backend" is responsible for
> making these decisions. This doesn't sound good to me.

[Somehow realizing I cannot post to virtio-dev...]
Let me try to add a bit of color because I realize I did mix up a few usage models 
(baremetal & virtualized) in my previous reply. 

Let me rephrase from the perspective of a virtualized system using Virtio SCMI specifically. 
In this specific case, the commands issued by the VM will go to the SCMI virtio backend
which is in the host. This can then choose can choose to reject VM issued SCMI commands.

> 
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* Re: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-16 17:31       ` Souvik Chakravarty
@ 2021-02-16 19:26         ` Peter Hilber
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Hilber @ 2021-02-16 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Souvik Chakravarty, Russell King - ARM Linux admin
  Cc: virtio-dev, jean-philippe, virtio-comment, Peter Hilber,
	linux-arm-kernel, Sudeep Holla, alex.bennee, Cristian Marussi

On 16.02.21 18:31, Souvik Chakravarty wrote:
>> From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:57 PM
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:48:30PM +0000, Souvik Chakravarty wrote:
>>>> From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:12 PM I'm not too familiar with
>>>> SCMI, but I think this question is worth asking...
>>>>
>>>> If the SCMI protocol can be used to control system level power
>>>> management, and if the intention is to expose this firmware
>>>> interface to virtualised guests, what prevents a guest from
>>>> controlling the power settings for stuff it should not have access to?
>>>>
>>>> For example, if it's possible to tell the system to power down a
>>>> critical host component through SCMI, what would prevent a guest
>>>> requesting that critical component from having its power cut?
>>>
>>> Short summary:
>>> SCMI as a protocol has built in requirements where only the resources
>>> (specific clock, sensor etc.) which are specifically needed by a VM
>>> are exposed to it. Resources are mapped by Identifiers and if the VM
>>> tries to access an identifier which it does not have access to, the
>>> SCMI backend can simply ignore or return DENIED. At no point is direct
>> access to any power mgmt. hardware granted to any VM, nor is a VM
>> supposed to have global access to all system resources.
>>> There is always a firmware backend which controls the hardware and
>>> services SCMI command requests from agents/guests, after due validation.
>>> The SCMI device/firmware which implements the SCMI backend, is
>>> responsible for implementing these resource isolation guarantees.
>>
>> You seem to be saying the SCMI firmware itself is responsible for
>> implementing this. Given what I've seen from vendors in ATF, this does not
>> leave me with much confidence that there will be sufficient security. It
>> concerns me more when you say that the "backend" is responsible for
>> making these decisions. This doesn't sound good to me.
> 
> [Somehow realizing I cannot post to virtio-dev...]
> Let me try to add a bit of color because I realize I did mix up a few usage models 
> (baremetal & virtualized) in my previous reply. 
> 
> Let me rephrase from the perspective of a virtualized system using Virtio SCMI specifically. 
> In this specific case, the commands issued by the VM will go to the SCMI virtio backend
> which is in the host. This can then choose can choose to reject VM issued SCMI commands.
> 

In my company's implementation, the integrator has to explicitly list
every resource which the "firmware" should make available to the
virtualization guest. As Souvik wrote, the "firmware" is in fact a
dedicated virtualization component, which was designed with security in
mind. I hope hearing this lessens your concerns.


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* Re: [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification
  2021-02-12  9:59 [PATCH v6] Add virtio SCMI device specification Peter Hilber
  2021-02-15 13:20 ` Cristian Marussi
  2021-02-16 16:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
@ 2021-03-11 17:19 ` Peter Hilber
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Hilber @ 2021-03-11 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: virtio-comment
  Cc: linux-arm-kernel, Souvik.Chakravarty, Sudeep.Holla, virtio-dev,
	alex.bennee, jean-philippe, cristian.marussi

On 12.02.21 10:59, Peter Hilber wrote:
> This patch proposes a new virtio device for the Arm SCMI protocol.
> 
> The device provides a simple transport for the Arm SCMI protocol[1]. The
> *S*ystem *C*ontrol and *M*anagement *I*nterface protocol allows speaking
> to system controllers that allow orchestrating things like power
> management, system state management and sensor access. The SCMI protocol
> is used on SoCs where multiple cores and co-processors need access to
> these resources.
> 
> The virtio transport allows making use of this protocol in virtualized
> systems.
> 
> [1] https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0056/c
> 
> Signed-off-by: Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@opensynergy.com>
> ---
> 
> Notes:
> 
>     Since sending out v5 in May 2020, there has been no additional
>     feedback w.r.t. the spec. An RfC patch series for the driver is now
>     available at [1]. OpenSynergy also has a proprietary implementation
>     of the device (without the VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY feature so
>     far).
> 
>     So I would like to request a vote on adding the device in a few weeks.
>     

I would like to request a vote on adding the virtio SCMI device to the spec.

Fixes: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/100

Best regards,

Peter

>     The PDF output is available at [2].
>     
>     [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20201105212116.411422-1-peter.hilber@opensynergy.com/
>     [2] https://share.mailbox.org/ajax/share/056076e70571144f50c4ca7571144b319a1d7236dda1cd3b/1/8/MzQ/MzQvMQ
> 
>     Changes for v6:
> 
>     - Refer to new SCMI spec version 3.0 (DEN0056C), which has a
>       provision for SHM race conditions.
> 
>     - Resolve conflicts with other added device documentation.
> 
>     Changes for v5:
>     
>     - Remove requirements on shared memory added in v4, since an upcoming
>     new version of the Arm SCMI spec[1] will provide a generic, more
>     powerful way to handle concurrent access to shared memory.
>     
>     Changes for v4:
>     
>     - Add more requirements on shared memory regions after feedback from
>       Alex Bennée.
>     
>     Changes for v3:
>     
>     - Add tentative device ID 32 in device section.
>     
>     - Remove redundant 'len' fields. The length of the payload fields can
>       already be deduced from the generic virtqueue 'len' fields. Therefore,
>       remove the redundant device-specific 'len' fields.
>     
>     - Reword requirement that driver must not put too small buffers into
>       eventq.
>     
>     Changes for v2:
>     
>     - CC virtio-dev list.
>     - Define size of erroneous delayed/not delayed responses.
>     - Use correct long name for SCMI.
>     - Remove restriction to `embedded' in commit message.
>     - Add motivation for conceptual per-message-channels.
>     - Device may now just drop notification if no buffers are available.
>     
> 
>  conformance.tex  |  34 ++++--
>  content.tex      |   1 +
>  introduction.tex |   3 +
>  virtio-scmi.tex  | 271 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  4 files changed, 303 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 virtio-scmi.tex
> 
> diff --git a/conformance.tex b/conformance.tex
> index 17c390d..a164cbb 100644
> --- a/conformance.tex
> +++ b/conformance.tex
> @@ -27,9 +27,10 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
>  \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Socket Driver Conformance},
>  \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / RPMB Driver Conformance},
>  \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / IOMMU Driver Conformance},
> -\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Sound Driver Conformance}
> -\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Memory Driver Conformance} or
> -\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / I2C Adapter Driver Conformance}.
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Sound Driver Conformance},
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Memory Driver Conformance},
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / I2C Adapter Driver Conformance} or
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / SCMI Driver Conformance}.
>  
>      \item Clause \ref{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}.
>    \end{itemize}
> @@ -49,9 +50,10 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
>  \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Socket Device Conformance}, 
>  \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / RPMB Device Conformance},
>  \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / IOMMU Device Conformance},
> -\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Sound Device Conformance}
> -\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Memory Device Conformance} or
> -\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / I2C Adapter Device Conformance}.
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Sound Device Conformance},
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Memory Device Conformance},
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / I2C Adapter Device Conformance} or
> +\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / SCMI Device Conformance}.
>  
>      \item Clause \ref{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}.
>    \end{itemize}
> @@ -277,6 +279,15 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
>  \item \ref{drivernormative:Device Types / I2C Adapter Device / Device Operation}
>  \end{itemize}
>  
> +\conformance{\subsection}{SCMI Driver Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / SCMI Driver Conformance}
> +
> +An SCMI driver MUST conform to the following normative statements:
> +
> +\begin{itemize}
> +\item \ref{drivernormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +\item \ref{drivernormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Setting Up eventq Buffers}
> +\end{itemize}
> +
>  \conformance{\section}{Device Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance}
>  
>  A device MUST conform to the following normative statements:
> @@ -505,6 +516,17 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
>  \item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / I2C Adapter Device / Device Operation}
>  \end{itemize}
>  
> +\conformance{\subsection}{SCMI Device Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / SCMI Device Conformance}
> +
> +An SCMI device MUST conform to the following normative statements:
> +
> +\begin{itemize}
> +\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
> +\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / eventq Operation}
> +\item \ref{devicenormative:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Shared Memory Operation}
> +\end{itemize}
> +
>  \conformance{\section}{Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}
>  A conformant implementation MUST be either transitional or
>  non-transitional, see \ref{intro:Legacy
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index 835f1ea..40ab30a 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -6532,6 +6532,7 @@ \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Framing Requirements}\label{sec:Device
>  \input{virtio-sound.tex}
>  \input{virtio-mem.tex}
>  \input{virtio-i2c.tex}
> +\input{virtio-scmi.tex}
>  
>  \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>  
> diff --git a/introduction.tex b/introduction.tex
> index bc0217f..7204b24 100644
> --- a/introduction.tex
> +++ b/introduction.tex
> @@ -76,6 +76,9 @@ \section{Normative References}\label{sec:Normative References}
>  	\phantomsection\label{intro:I2C}\textbf{[I2C]} &
>  	I2C-bus specification and user manual,
>  	\newline\url{https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf}\\
> +	\phantomsection\label{intro:SCMI}\textbf{[SCMI]} &
> +	Arm System Control and Management Interface, DEN0056,
> +	\newline\url{https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0056/c}, version C and any future revisions\\
>  
>  \end{longtable}
>  
> diff --git a/virtio-scmi.tex b/virtio-scmi.tex
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..c4b8dd0
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/virtio-scmi.tex
> @@ -0,0 +1,271 @@
> +\section{SCMI Device}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device}
> +
> +An SCMI device implements the Arm System Control and Management
> +Interface (SCMI). SCMI can be used for sensors, power state management,
> +clock management and performance management among other things.
> +
> +This section relies on definitions from the \hyperref[intro:SCMI]{SCMI
> +specification}.
> +
> +Virtio SCMI device and driver are mapped to SCMI platform and agent
> +respectively. The device is visible to a particular SCMI agent. The
> +device allows a guest to communicate as an SCMI agent using one or more
> +SCMI protocols. The default SCMI protocols are defined in the
> +\hyperref[intro:SCMI]{SCMI specification}. Virtio provides a transport
> +medium for exchanging SCMI messages between the SCMI agent and platform.
> +The virtio SCMI transport allows the queueing of multiple messages and
> +responses.
> +
> +SCMI FastChannels are not supported.
> +
> +\subsection{Device ID}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device ID}
> +
> +32
> +
> +\subsection{Virtqueues}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Virtqueues}
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[0] cmdq
> +\item[1] eventq
> +\end{description}
> +
> +The cmdq is used by the driver to send commands to the device. The
> +device replies with responses (not delayed responses) over the cmdq.
> +
> +The eventq is used by the device to send notifications and delayed
> +responses. The eventq only exists if VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was
> +negotiated.
> +
> +\subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS (0)] Device implements some SCMI
> +notifications, or delayed responses.
> +\item[VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY (1)] Device implements any SCMI
> +statistics shared memory region.
> +\end{description}
> +
> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS is used to determine the existence of the
> +eventq. The eventq is required for SCMI notifications and delayed
> +responses.
> +
> +VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY is used to determine whether the device
> +provides any SCMI statistics shared memory region. SCMI statistics
> +shared memory regions are defined by some SCMI protocols.
> +
> +The SCMI protocols provide the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES commands to
> +inquire about the particular SCMI notifications and delayed responses
> +implemented by the device. The SCMI protocols provide additional
> +commands to detect other features implemented by the device.
> +
> +\devicenormative{\subsubsection}{Feature bits}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Feature bits}
> +
> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS if the device can
> +implement at least one SCMI notification, or delayed response.
> +
> +The device MUST offer VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY if the device can
> +implement at least one SCMI statistics shared memory region.
> +
> +\subsection{Device configuration layout}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device configuration layout}
> +
> +There is no configuration data for the device.
> +
> +\subsection{Device Initialization}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Initialization}
> +
> +The
> +\hyperref[sec:General Initialization And Device Operation / Device Initialization]{general
> +requirements on device initialization} apply.
> +
> +\subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation}
> +
> +The SCMI transport used for the device puts each SCMI message into a
> +dedicated virtio buffer. The driver uses the cmdq for transmitting SCMI
> +commands and receiving the corresponding SCMI responses. The device uses
> +the eventq for transmitting SCMI notifications and delayed responses.
> +Each message includes an SCMI protocol header and payload, as defined by
> +the \hyperref[intro:SCMI]{SCMI specification}.
> +
> +\subsubsection{cmdq Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +
> +Each buffer in the cmdq holds a single SCMI command once the buffer has
> +been made available. When the buffer has been marked as used, it
> +contains the SCMI response. An arbitrary number of such SCMI messages
> +can be in transit at the same time. Conceptually, each SCMI message in
> +the cmdq uses its own SCMI A2P (agent to platform) channel.
> +
> +The SCMI response is in the same virtio buffer as the corresponding SCMI
> +command. The response contains the return values which SCMI specifies
> +for each command, whether synchronous or asynchronous. Delayed responses
> +are distinct SCMI messages transmitted over the eventq.
> +
> +Buffers in the cmdq contain both the request and the response. A request
> +has the following layout:
> +
> +\begin{lstlisting}
> +struct virtio_scmi_request {
> +        le32 hdr;
> +        u8 params[<actual parameters size>];
> +};
> +\end{lstlisting}
> +
> +The virtio_scmi_request fields are interpreted as follows:
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[\field{hdr}] (device-readable) contains the SCMI message header
> +\item[\field{params}] (device-readable) comprises the SCMI message
> +parameters
> +\end{description}
> +
> +A cmdq response has the following layout:
> +
> +\begin{lstlisting}
> +struct virtio_scmi_response {
> +        le32 hdr;
> +        u8 ret_values[<actual return values size>];
> +};
> +\end{lstlisting}
> +
> +The virtio_scmi_response fields are interpreted as follows:
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[\field{hdr}] (device-writable) contains the SCMI message header
> +\item[\field{ret_values}] (device-writable) comprises the SCMI message
> +return values
> +\end{description}
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device responds to
> +SCMI commands as if no SCMI notifications or delayed responses were
> +implemented.
> +
> +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{cmdq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +
> +The device MAY process available commands out of order and in parallel.
> +
> +The device MUST process all available commands eventually, even in the
> +case of bursts of multiple command messages.
> +
> +If the \field{status} field in the \field{virtio_scmi_response}
> +\field{ret_values} has a value other than SUCCESS, the device MUST set
> +the size of \field{ret_values} to the size of the \field{status} field.
> +
> +If the driver requests an SCMI notification or a delayed response and
> +there are currently NOT enough available buffers in the eventq, the
> +device SHOULD still return SCMI status code SUCCESS.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device MUST deny
> +any request for an SCMI notification or a delayed response by returning
> +SCMI status code NOT_SUPPORTED.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the device MUST NOT
> +indicate in the PROTOCOL_MESSAGE_ATTRIBUTES return values that any SCMI
> +notification, or delayed response, is implemented.
> +
> +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{cmdq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / cmdq Operation}
> +
> +Before sending a command, the driver MUST wait for responses to all
> +commands whose completion the driver considers prerequisites to
> +executing the command.
> +
> +With every command message, the driver MUST provide enough
> +device-writable memory to enable the device to return corresponding
> +return values.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was not negotiated, the driver MUST NOT
> +request any SCMI notification, nor any delayed response.
> +
> +\subsubsection{Setting Up eventq Buffers}
> +
> +The driver has to populate the eventq before the device can use it.
> +
> +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Setting Up eventq Buffers}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Setting Up eventq Buffers}
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_P2A_CHANNELS was negotiated, the driver SHOULD populate
> +the eventq with buffers.
> +
> +The driver MUST NOT put device-readable descriptors into the eventq.
> +
> +The driver MUST NOT put into the eventq any buffer which is smaller than
> +the largest SCMI P2A (platform to agent) message which the driver will
> +request.
> +
> +\subsubsection{eventq Operation}
> +
> +Each buffer in the eventq holds (once the buffer is marked as used)
> +either a single SCMI notification, or a single SCMI delayed response. An
> +arbitrary number of such SCMI messages can be in transit at the same
> +time. Conceptually, each SCMI message transmitted over the eventq uses
> +its own SCMI P2A (platform to agent) channel. Buffers in the eventq have
> +the following layout:
> +
> +\begin{lstlisting}
> +struct virtio_scmi_event_msg {
> +        /* start of device-writable data */
> +        le32 hdr;
> +        u8 payload[<actual payload size>];
> +};
> +\end{lstlisting}
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[\field{hdr}] (device-writable) contains the SCMI message header
> +\item[\field{payload}] (device-writable) comprises the SCMI message
> +payload
> +\end{description}
> +
> +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{eventq Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / eventq Operation}
> +
> +If the device intends to send a notification and there are no available
> +buffers in the eventq, the device MAY drop the notification, or send a
> +corresponding notification later, once enough buffers become available.
> +
> +The device MAY send the notification later if the events which cause the
> +notification take place in quick succession.
> +
> +If the device sends the notification later, the device MAY send the
> +notification with updated data, unless the specific SCMI protocol
> +disallows this.
> +
> +If the device intends to send a notification and there are available
> +buffers, but one of the buffers is too small to fit the notification,
> +the device MAY omit the notification.
> +
> +If the device intends to send a delayed response and there are no
> +available buffers in the eventq, the device MUST send the corresponding
> +delayed response once enough buffers become available.
> +
> +If the \field{status} field in a delayed response \field{payload} has a
> +value other than SUCCESS, the device MUST set the size of
> +\field{payload} to the size of the \field{status} field.
> +
> +\subsubsection{Shared Memory Operation}
> +
> +Various SCMI protocols define statistics shared memory regions (for
> +statistics and sensor values).
> +
> +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Shared Memory Operation}{Device Types / SCMI Device / Device Operation / Shared Memory Operation}
> +
> +If VIRTIO_SCMI_F_SHARED_MEMORY was negotiated, the device MAY implement
> +an SCMI statistics shared memory region using a virtio shared memory
> +region.
> +
> +If the device implements a shared memory region, the device MUST assign
> +the corresponding shmid as per the following table:
> +
> +\begin{tabular}{|l|l|}
> +\hline
> +SCMI statistics shared memory region & Virtio shmid \\
> +\hline \hline
> +Reserved (invalid) & 0 \\
> +\hline
> +Power state statistics shared memory region & 1 \\
> +\hline
> +Performance domain statistics shared memory region & 2 \\
> +\hline
> +Sensor Values Shared Memory & 3 \\
> +\hline
> +Reserved for future use & 4 to 0x7F \\
> +\hline
> +Vendor-specific statistics shared memory regions & 0x80 to 0xFF \\
> +\hline
> +Reserved for future use & 0x100 and greater \\
> +\hline
> +\end{tabular}
> 
> base-commit: f5fd3fca7e4006108b3f9ba91c0b76c5eb6c0726
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