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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] arm64: Enable BTI for the executable as well as the interpreter
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:41:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210615154106.GS4187@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210615153341.GI5149@sirena.org.uk>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 04:33:41PM +0100, Mark Brown via Libc-alpha wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 04:22:06PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:28:12AM -0500, Jeremy Linton via Libc-alpha wrote:
> 
> > > Thus, I expect that with his patch applied to 5.13 the service will fail to
> > > start regardless of the state of MDWE, but it seems to continue starting
> > > when I set MDWE=yes. Same behavior with v1 FWTW.
> 
> > If the failure we're trying to detect is that BTI is undesirably left
> > off for the main executable, surely replacing BTIs with NOPs will make
> > no differenece?  The behaviour with PROT_BTI clear is strictly more
> > permissive than with PROT_BTI set, so I'm not sure we can test the
> > behaviour this way.
> 
> > Maybe I'm missing sometihng / confused myself somewhere.
> 
> The issue this patch series is intended to address is that BTI gets
> left off since the dynamic linker is unable to enable PROT_BTI on the
> main executable.  We're looking to see that we end up with the stricter
> permissions checking of BTI, with the issue present landing pads
> replaced by NOPs will not fault but once the issue is addressed they
> should start faulting.

Ah, right -- I got the test backwards in my head.  Yes, that sounds
reasonable.

> > Looking at /proc/<pid>/maps after the process starts up may be a more
> > reliable approach, so see what the actual prot value is on the main
> > executable's text pages.
> 
> smaps rather than maps but yes, executable pages show up as "ex" and BTI
> adds a "bt" tag in VmFlags.

Fumbled that -- yes, I meant smaps!

Ignore me...

Cheers
---Dave

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-15 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-04 11:24 [PATCH v2 0/3] arm64: Enable BTI for the executable as well as the interpreter Mark Brown
2021-06-04 11:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] elf: Allow architectures to parse properties on the main executable Mark Brown
2021-06-09 15:16   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 13:41     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-04 11:24 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: Enable BTI for main executable as well as the interpreter Mark Brown
2021-06-09 15:17   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 13:19     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-10 15:34       ` Dave Martin
2021-06-04 11:24 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] elf: Remove has_interp property from arch_adjust_elf_prot() Mark Brown
2021-06-09 15:17   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-09 16:55     ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2021-06-10  9:58       ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 18:17         ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2021-06-10 13:34     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-10 15:40       ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 16:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] arm64: Enable BTI for the executable as well as the interpreter Jeremy Linton
2021-06-14 16:00   ` Mark Brown
2021-06-15 15:22   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-15 15:33     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-15 15:41       ` Dave Martin [this message]
2021-06-16  5:12         ` Jeremy Linton

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