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From: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <dave.martin@arm.com>,
	 "H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] arm64: Enable BTI for the executable as well as the interpreter
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 11:28:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43e67d7b-aab9-db1f-f74b-a87ba7442d47@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210604112450.13344-1-broonie@kernel.org>

Hi,

On 6/4/21 6:24 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> Deployments of BTI on arm64 have run into issues interacting with
> systemd's MemoryDenyWriteExecute feature.  Currently for dynamically
> linked executables the kernel will only handle architecture specific
> properties like BTI for the interpreter, the expectation is that the
> interpreter will then handle any properties on the main executable.
> For BTI this means remapping the executable segments PROT_EXEC |
> PROT_BTI.
> 
> This interacts poorly with MemoryDenyWriteExecute since that is
> implemented using a seccomp filter which prevents setting PROT_EXEC on
> already mapped memory and lacks the context to be able to detect that
> memory is already mapped with PROT_EXEC.  This series resolves this by
> handling the BTI property for both the interpreter and the main
> executable.

I've got a Fedora34 system booting in qemu or a model with BTI enabled. 
On that system I took the systemd-resolved executable, which is one of 
the services with MDWE enabled, and replaced a number of the bti's with 
nops. I expect the service to continue to work with the fedora or 
mainline 5.13 kernel and it does. If instead I boot with MDWE=no for the 
service, it should fail to start given either of those kernels, and it does.

Thus, I expect that with his patch applied to 5.13 the service will fail 
to start regardless of the state of MDWE, but it seems to continue 
starting when I set MDWE=yes. Same behavior with v1 FWTW.

Of course, there is a good chance I've messed something up or i'm 
missing something. I should really validate the /lib/ld-linux behavior 
itself too. I guess this could just as well be a glibc issue (f34 has 
glibc 2.33-5 which appears to have the re-mmap on failure patch). Either 
way, systemd-resolved is a LSB PIE, with /lib/ld-linux as its 
interpreter. I've not dug too deep into debugging this, cause I've got a 
couple other things I need to deal with in the next couple days, and I 
strongly dislike booting a full debug+system on the model. chuckle, sorry...


Thanks,


> 
> This does mean that we may get more code with BTI enabled if running on
> a system without BTI support in the dynamic linker, this is expected to
> be a safe configuration and testing seems to confirm that. It also
> reduces the flexibility userspace has to disable BTI but it is expected
> that for cases where there are problems which require BTI to be disabled
> it is more likely that it will need to be disabled on a system level.
> 
> v2:
>   - Add a patch dropping has_interp from arch_adjust_elf_prot()
>   - Fix bisection issue with static executables on arm64 in the first
>     patch.
> 
> Mark Brown (3):
>    elf: Allow architectures to parse properties on the main executable
>    arm64: Enable BTI for main executable as well as the interpreter
>    elf: Remove has_interp property from arch_adjust_elf_prot()
> 
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h | 13 ++++++++++---
>   arch/arm64/kernel/process.c  | 20 +++++++-------------
>   fs/binfmt_elf.c              | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++---------
>   include/linux/elf.h          |  8 +++++---
>   4 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
> 
> 
> base-commit: c4681547bcce777daf576925a966ffa824edd09d
> 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-10 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-04 11:24 [PATCH v2 0/3] arm64: Enable BTI for the executable as well as the interpreter Mark Brown
2021-06-04 11:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] elf: Allow architectures to parse properties on the main executable Mark Brown
2021-06-09 15:16   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 13:41     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-04 11:24 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: Enable BTI for main executable as well as the interpreter Mark Brown
2021-06-09 15:17   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 13:19     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-10 15:34       ` Dave Martin
2021-06-04 11:24 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] elf: Remove has_interp property from arch_adjust_elf_prot() Mark Brown
2021-06-09 15:17   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-09 16:55     ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2021-06-10  9:58       ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 18:17         ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2021-06-10 13:34     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-10 15:40       ` Dave Martin
2021-06-10 16:28 ` Jeremy Linton [this message]
2021-06-14 16:00   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] arm64: Enable BTI for the executable as well as the interpreter Mark Brown
2021-06-15 15:22   ` Dave Martin
2021-06-15 15:33     ` Mark Brown
2021-06-15 15:41       ` Dave Martin
2021-06-16  5:12         ` Jeremy Linton

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