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From: sboyd@codeaurora.org (Stephen Boyd)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 1/3] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:11:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54EBB3AC.30000@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqLqqw5DyUqCaOTSKPwF-Ms5EU4f_OPoW9YVpMCo8A_bbw@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/22/15 16:57, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Maxime Ripard
> <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:01:55PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>> += Data consumers =
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +Required properties:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +eeproms: List of phandle and data cell specifier triplet, one triplet
>>>>>> +        for each data cell the device might be interested in. The
>>>>>> +        triplet consists of the phandle to the eeprom provider, then
>>>>>> +        the offset in byte within that storage device, and the length
>>>>>> +        in byte of the data we care about.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with this is it assumes you know who the consumer is and
>>>>> that it is a DT node. For example, how would you describe a serial
>>>>> number?
>>>> Correct me if I miss understood.
>>>> Is serial number any different?
>>>> Am hoping that the eeprom consumer would be aware of offset and size of
>>>> serial number in the eeprom
>>>>
>>>> Cant the consumer do:
>>>>
>>>> eeprom-consumer {
>>>>         eeproms = <&at24 0 4>;
>>>>         eeprom-names = "device-serial-number";
>>> Yes, but who is "eeprom-consumer"?
>> Any device that should lookup values in one of the EEPROM.
>>
>>> DT nodes generally describe a h/w block, but it this case, the
>>> consumer depends on the OS, not the h/w.
>> Not really, or at least, not more than any similar binding we
>> currently have.
>>
>> The fact that a MAC-address for the first ethernet chip is stored at a
>> given offset in a given eeprom has nothing to do with the OS.
> So MAC address would be a valid use to link to a h/w device, but there
> are certainly cases that don't correspond to a device.
>
>>> I'm not saying you can't describe where things are, but I don't
>>> think you should imply who is the consumer and doing so is
>>> unnecessarily complicated.
>> If you only take the case of a serial number, indeed. If you take
>> other usage into account, you can't really do without it.
>>
>>> Also, the layout of EEPROM is likely very much platform specific.
>> Indeed, which is why it should be in the DT.
> Agreed. I'm not saying the layout should not be.
>
>>> Some could have a more complex structure perhaps with key ids and
>>> linked list structure.
>> Then just request the size of the whole list, and parse it afterwards
>> in your driver?
>>
>>> I would do something more simple that is just a list of keys and their
>>> location like this:
>>>
>>> device-serial-number = <start size>;
>>> key1 = <start size>;
>>> key2 = <start size>;
>> I'm sorry, but what's the difference?
> It can describe the layout completely whether the fields are tied to a
> h/w device or not.
>
> What I would like to see here is the entire layout described covering
> both types of fields.
>

I was thinking the DT might be like this on the provider side:

   qfprom at 1000000 {
      reg = <0x1000000 0x1000>;
      ranges = <0 0x1000000 0x1000>;
      compatible = "qcom,qfprom-msm8960"

      pvs-data: pvs-data at 40 {
            compatible = "qcom,pvs-a";
            reg = <0x40 0x20>,
	    #eeprom-cells = <0>;
      };

       tsens-data: tmdata at 10 {
            compatible = "qcom,tsens-data-msm8960";
            reg = <0x10 4>, <0x16 4>;
	    #eeprom-cells = <0>;

      };

      serial-number: serial at 50 {
            compatible = "qcom,serial-msm8960";
            reg = <0x50 4>, <0x60 4>;
	    #eeprom-cells = <0>;

      };
   };

and then on the consumer side:

	device {
		eeproms = <&serial-number>;
		eeprom-names = "soc-rev-id";
	};


This would solve a problem where the consumer device is some standard
off-the-shelf IP block that needs to get some SoC specific calibration
data from the eeprom. I may want to interpret the bits differently
depending on which eeprom is connected to my SoC. Sometimes that data
format may be the same across many variations of the SoC (e.g. the
qcom,pvs-a node) or it may be completely different for a given SoC (e.g.
qcom,serial-msm8960 node). I imagine for other SoCs out there it could
be different depending on which eeprom the board manufacturer decides to
wire onto their board and how they choose to program the data.

So this is where I think the eeprom-cells and offset + length starts to
fall apart. It forces us to make up a bunch of different compatible
strings for our consumer device just so that we can parse the eeprom
that we decided to use for some SoC/board specific data. Instead I'd
like to see some framework that expresses exactly which eeprom is on my
board and how to interpret the bits in a way that doesn't require me to
keep refining the compatible string for my generic IP block.

I worry that if we put all those details in DT we'll end up having to
describe individual bits like serial-number-bit-2, serial-number-bit-3,
etc. because sometimes these pieces of data are scattered all around the
eeprom and aren't contiguous or aligned on a byte boundary. It may be
easier to just have a way to express that this is an eeprom with this
specific layout and my device has data stored in there. Then the driver
can be told what layout it is (via compatible or some other string based
means if we're not using DT?) and match that up with some driver data if
it needs to know how to understand the bits it can read with the
eeprom_read() API.

-- 
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a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-19 17:07 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Add simple EEPROM Framework via regmap Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-19 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-19 18:12   ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-20  8:27     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-20  2:36   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-02-20  8:14     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-20 10:24       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-20 17:21   ` Rob Herring
2015-02-20 19:25     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-20 22:01       ` Rob Herring
2015-02-21 11:31         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-22 14:34           ` Maxime Ripard
2015-02-22 14:32         ` Maxime Ripard
2015-02-23  0:57           ` Rob Herring
2015-02-23 23:11             ` Stephen Boyd [this message]
2015-02-24  7:08               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-24  9:21               ` Maxime Ripard
2015-02-25  1:30                 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-02-26  9:16                   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-26 13:21                     ` Maxime Ripard
2015-02-26 14:56                       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-26 13:18                   ` Maxime Ripard
2015-02-23  9:15         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-02-20 17:46   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-20 19:00     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-23 15:04   ` Mark Brown
2015-02-23 15:38     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-19 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] eeprom: sunxi: Move the SID driver to the eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-20 17:47   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-19 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] eeprom: qfprom: Add Qualcomm QFPROM support Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-02-20 17:48   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-03-05  9:44 ` [PATCH v1 0/6] Add simple EEPROM Framework via regmap Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05  9:45   ` [PATCH v1 1/6] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom providers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05 10:23     ` Paul Bolle
2015-03-05 10:35       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-07 15:00     ` Mark Brown
2015-03-09  7:13       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05  9:45   ` [PATCH v1 2/6] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom consumers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05  9:46   ` [PATCH v1 3/6] eeprom: Add bindings for simple eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05 20:11     ` Rob Herring
2015-03-05 22:34       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05  9:46   ` [PATCH v1 4/6] eeprom: sunxi: Move the SID driver to the " Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05 10:15     ` Paul Bolle
2015-03-05 18:36       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-03-05  9:46   ` [PATCH v1 5/6] eeprom: qfprom: Add Qualcomm QFPROM support Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05 10:02     ` Paul Bolle
2015-03-05 10:10       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-05  9:46   ` [PATCH v1 6/6] eeprom: Add to MAINTAINERS for eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-13  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Add simple EEPROM Framework via regmap Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-13  9:50     ` [PATCH v2 1/7] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom providers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-23 21:09       ` Mark Brown
2015-03-23 22:05         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24  9:18           ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 17:23             ` Mark Brown
2015-03-24 18:34               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 19:02                 ` Mark Brown
2015-03-24 19:26                   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 20:55                     ` Mark Brown
2015-03-13  9:50     ` [PATCH v2 2/7] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom consumers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-13  9:50     ` [PATCH v2 3/7] eeprom: Add bindings for simple eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-13  9:50     ` [PATCH v2 4/7] eeprom: sunxi: Move the SID driver to the " Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-13  9:50     ` [PATCH v2 5/7] eeprom: qfprom: Add Qualcomm QFPROM support Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-13  9:50     ` [PATCH v2 6/7] eeprom: qfprom: Add bindings for qfprom Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-13  9:51     ` [PATCH v2 7/7] eeprom: Add to MAINTAINERS for eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:28     ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Add simple EEPROM Framework via regmap Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:29       ` [PATCH v3 1/9] regmap: Introduce regmap_get_max_register Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:36         ` Mark Brown
2015-03-24 23:05           ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 23:23             ` Joe Perches
2015-03-24 22:30       ` [PATCH v3 2/9] regmap: Introduce regmap_get_reg_stride Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:37         ` Mark Brown
2015-03-24 23:07           ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:30       ` [PATCH v3 3/9] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom providers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:53         ` Mark Brown
2015-03-26 16:23           ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:30       ` [PATCH v3 4/9] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom consumers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-25  7:16         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-03-25 12:29           ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:30       ` [PATCH v3 5/9] eeprom: Add bindings for simple eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-25  7:10         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-03-25 16:40           ` Maxime Ripard
2015-03-24 22:30       ` [PATCH v3 6/9] eeprom: sunxi: Move the SID driver to the " Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:30       ` [PATCH v3 7/9] eeprom: qfprom: Add Qualcomm QFPROM support Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-24 22:31       ` [PATCH v3 8/9] eeprom: qfprom: Add bindings for qfprom Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-25  0:28         ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-03-24 22:31       ` [PATCH v3 9/9] eeprom: Add to MAINTAINERS for eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:54       ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Add simple EEPROM Framework via regmap Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:56         ` [PATCH v4 01/10] regmap: Introduce regmap_get_max_register Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-04 12:05           ` Mark Brown
2015-03-30 21:57         ` [PATCH v4 02/10] regmap: Introduce regmap_get_reg_stride Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:57         ` [PATCH v4 03/10] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom providers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:57         ` [PATCH v4 04/10] eeprom: Add a simple EEPROM framework for eeprom consumers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-04-07 18:45           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-04-07 20:09             ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-04-09 14:45               ` Stephen Boyd
2015-04-10 11:45                 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-05 11:46                 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-08  5:23                   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-06 17:28           ` Mark Brown
2015-03-30 21:57         ` [PATCH v4 05/10] eeprom: Add bindings for simple eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-04-06 13:32           ` Matt Porter
2015-04-06 14:11             ` Rob Herring
2015-04-06 15:04               ` Matt Porter
2015-04-07 17:35                 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-04-07 17:46                   ` Mark Brown
2015-04-07 18:03                     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-04-07 19:46                       ` Matt Porter
2015-04-08  9:24                         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:58         ` [PATCH v4 06/10] eeprom: Add simple eeprom-mmio consumer helper functions Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:58         ` [PATCH v4 07/10] eeprom: qfprom: Add Qualcomm QFPROM support Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:58         ` [PATCH v4 08/10] eeprom: qfprom: Add bindings for qfprom Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:58         ` [PATCH v4 09/10] eeprom: sunxi: Move the SID driver to the eeprom framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-03-30 21:58         ` [PATCH v4 10/10] eeprom: Add to MAINTAINERS for " Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:42         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Add simple NVMEM Framework via regmap Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:42           ` [PATCH v5 01/11] regmap: Introduce regmap_get_max_register Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-22 11:18             ` Mark Brown
2015-05-21 16:42           ` [PATCH v5 02/11] regmap: Introduce regmap_get_reg_stride Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-22 11:19             ` Mark Brown
2015-05-21 16:43           ` [PATCH v5 03/11] nvmem: Add a simple NVMEM framework for nvmem providers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 22:43             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18 12:46               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-24  0:24                 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-24 10:05                   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:43           ` [PATCH v5 04/11] nvmem: Add a simple NVMEM framework for consumers Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 22:29             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-17  8:00               ` Sascha Hauer
2015-06-18 12:56               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:43           ` [PATCH v5 05/11] nvmem: Add nvmem_device based consumer apis Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 22:49             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18 12:57               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:44           ` [PATCH v5 06/11] nvmem: Add bindings for simple nvmem framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 22:53             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18 13:01               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-19 10:36             ` maitysanchayan at gmail.com
2015-06-19 10:59               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:44           ` [PATCH v5 07/11] nvmem: Add simple nvmem-mmio consumer helper functions Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 22:58             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18 13:08               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:44           ` [PATCH v5 08/11] nvmem: qfprom: Add Qualcomm QFPROM support Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 23:00             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18 13:22               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:44           ` [PATCH v5 09/11] nvmem: qfprom: Add bindings for qfprom Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 23:01             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-21 16:45           ` [PATCH v5 11/11] nvmem: Add to MAINTAINERS for nvmem framework Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-21 16:45           ` [PATCH v5 10/11] nvmem: sunxi: Move the SID driver to the " Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-06-16 23:04             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18 13:09               ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-25 16:51           ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Add simple NVMEM Framework via regmap Pantelis Antoniou
2015-05-26  9:12             ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-26 17:54               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2015-05-29  1:20           ` Dan Williams
2015-05-29  7:09             ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2015-05-29 21:44               ` Dan Williams

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