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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: "Radovanovic, Aleksandar" <aleksandar.radovanovic@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2022 09:08:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edwmuw4f.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR12MB43581495197F603E901BBACA89419@MN2PR12MB4358.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:18:52 +0100,
"Radovanovic, Aleksandar" <aleksandar.radovanovic@amd.com> wrote:
> >
> > > As Marc mentions, CDX
> > > MSI writes are downstream of the SMMU and, if SMMU does not provide
> > > identity mapping for GITS_TRANSLATER, then we have a problem and may
> > > need to allow the OS to write the address part. However, even if we
> > > did, the CDX hardware is limited in that it can only take one
> > > GITS_TRANSLATER register target address per system, not per CDX
> > > device, nor per MSI vector.
> > 
> > If the MSI generation is downstream of the SMMU, why should the SMMU
> > provide a 1:1 mapping for GITS_TRANSLATER? I don't think it should provide a
> > mapping at all in this case. But it looks like I don't really understand how
> > these things are placed relative to each other... :-/
> > 
> 
> Apologies, I got my streams confused. It is _upstream_ of the SMMU,
> it does go through SMMU mapping.

OK, so you definitely need a mapping, but it cannot be a translation,
and it needs to be in all the possible address spaces. OMG.

> > > As for the data part (EventID in GIC parlance), this is always going
> > > to be the CDX device-relative vector number - I believe this can't be
> > > changed, it is a hardware limitation (but I need to double-check).
> > > That should be OK, though, as I believe this is exactly what Linux
> > > would write anyway, as each CDX device should be in its own IRQ domain
> > > (i.e. have its own ITS device table).
> > 
> > But that's really the worse part. You have hardcoded what is the
> > *current* Linux behaviour. Things change. And baking SW behaviour into a
> > piece of HW looks incredibly shortsighted...
> 
> For posterity, I'm not an RTL designer/architect, so share your
> sentiment to a certain extent. That said, I expect the decision was
> not based on Linux or any other SW behaviour, but because it is the
> most straightforward and least expensive way to do it. Having an
> EventID register for each and every MSI source just so you can
> program it in any random order costs flops and all the associated
> complexity of extra RTL logic (think timing closure, etc.), so
> trade-offs are made. The fact that it matches current Linux
> behaviour means we just got lucky...

Yeah, but that's not the only problem: there is no guarantee that we
have enough LPIs to allocate for the device, so we'll perform a
partial allocation (8 instead of 32 LPIs, for example).

How do you tell the device which events are valid? As far as I can
see, you can't, and I guess it will fire on all of them, resulting in
interrupts being dropped on the floor.

	M.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-08  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-03 12:26 [RFC PATCH 0/2] add support for CDX bus MSI domain Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] irqchip: cdx-bus: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:33   ` Greg KH
2022-08-03 12:37     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-04  8:49   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-08-04  9:18     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-04 10:38       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-08-04 12:11         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-03 12:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] driver core: add compatible string in sysfs for platform devices Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:31   ` Greg KH
2022-08-03 12:46     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-03 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] add support for CDX bus MSI domain Robin Murphy
2022-08-04  4:23   ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-17 16:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-06 13:47 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] add support for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/7] dt-bindings: bus: add CDX bus device tree bindings Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 17:46     ` Rob Herring
2022-09-07  3:13       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-08 10:51         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/7] bus/cdx: add the cdx bus driver Nipun Gupta
2022-09-07  0:32     ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07  3:21       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-07 18:06         ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07 12:32     ` Greg KH
2022-09-08 13:29       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: support ops registration for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-09-07  0:10     ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07  3:17       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-07  8:27         ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-07 18:24           ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07 20:40             ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-08  0:14               ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 17:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-07 11:17       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 11:33         ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-07 12:14           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 11:35         ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-07 12:32           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 13:18             ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-08  8:08               ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2022-09-08  9:51                 ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-08 11:49                   ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-08 14:18                   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 13:18     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-08 14:13       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-08 14:29         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-09  6:32           ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-12 10:04       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-12 10:34         ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-12 13:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 13:37             ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-12 14:38               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 15:09                 ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-13 12:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-14 11:18                     ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-14 11:54                       ` gregkh
2022-10-14 12:13                         ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-14 13:46                           ` gregkh
2022-10-14 13:58                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] bus/cdx: add bus and device attributes Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:48   ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/7] vfio/cdx: add support for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 17:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-06 17:23       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06 13:48   ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] vfio/cdx: add interrupt support Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/8] add support for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/8] dt-bindings: bus: add CDX bus device tree bindings Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14 14:17     ` Rob Herring
2022-10-17 10:18       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/8] bus/cdx: add the cdx bus driver Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  7:15     ` Greg KH
2022-10-14  8:12       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  7:18     ` Greg KH
2022-10-14  8:20       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: support ops registration for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:51     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/8] bux/cdx: support dma configuration for CDX devices Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/8] bus/cdx: add bus and device attributes Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/8] irq/msi: use implicit msi domain for alloc and free Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/8] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent Nipun Gupta
2022-11-17 19:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/8] bus/cdx: add cdx controller Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14 14:10   ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/8] add support for CDX bus Rob Herring
2022-10-17 10:08     ` Gupta, Nipun

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