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From: Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	valentin.schneider@arm.com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:53:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a3f9094-63a7-7fe2-bb4d-6deb5c022596@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj4Ws1s3iw+w62jcFdnarWhiVxs9zCBjoo7WysxRVZAgQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 19/02/2019 00:24, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 2:31 PM H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>>
>> The question is what "fix it" means. I'm really concerned about AC escapes,
>> and everyone else should be, too.
> 
> I do think that it might be the right thing to do to add some kind of
> WARN_ON_ONCE() for AC being set in various can-reschedule situations.
> 
> We'd just have to abstract it sanely. I'm sure arm64 has the exact
> same issue with PAN - maybe it saves properly, but the same "we
> wouldn't want to go through the scheduler with PAN clear".
> 

As of right now, we have the same issue on arm64 as on x86. We don't
currently save the PAN bit on task switch, but I have a patch to do that.

Unless we decide to go down the route of warning against uses of
schedule() inside.

As for the abstraction, I had this patch[1] that added another primitive
for the user_access API (although this might not be suited for x86 if
you also want to check DF). However, an issue that appears is where to
perform the check to cover enough ground.

Checking inside the schedule() code you only cover cases where things
have already gone wrong, and not the use of functions that are unsafe to
call inside a user_access region.

[1]
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2019-January/625385.html

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Thierry

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-02-19  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-15 13:58 [PATCH v3 0/4] uaccess: Add unsafe accessors for arm64 Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] arm64: uaccess: Cleanup get/put_user() Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] arm64: uaccess: Implement unsafe accessors Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] uaccess: Check no rescheduling function is called in unsafe region Julien Thierry
2019-01-30 16:58   ` Valentin Schneider
2019-02-04 13:27     ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-11 13:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-11 13:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-12  9:15       ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13  8:21         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-13 10:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 10:50           ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 13:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 13:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:00               ` Will Deacon
2019-02-13 14:07                 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:24                   ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 15:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:39                   ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 15:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 18:54                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                         ` <D61C430D-4321-4114-AB85-671A3C7B8EAE@amacapital.net>
2019-02-13 22:21                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 22:49                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-14 10:14                               ` [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-14 16:18                                 ` Brian Gerst
2019-02-14 19:34                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-15 14:34                                     ` Brian Gerst
2019-02-15 17:18                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-15 17:40                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-15 18:28                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-15 23:34                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-16  0:21                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-16 10:32                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-16  4:06                                 ` hpa
2019-02-16 10:30                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 22:30                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-19  0:24                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19  2:20                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-19  2:46                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-19  9:07                                             ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-19  8:53                                         ` Julien Thierry [this message]
2019-02-19  9:15                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19  9:19                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19  9:04                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19  9:21                                         ` hpa
2019-02-19  9:44                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 11:38                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-19 11:58                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 12:48                                         ` Will Deacon
2019-02-20 22:55                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-21 12:06                                             ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-21 21:35                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-21 22:08                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 12:58                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 18:10                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-22 22:26                                                     ` [RFC][PATCH] objtool: STAC/CLAC validation Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 23:34                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23  8:43                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 23:39                                                       ` hpa
2019-02-23  8:39                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25  8:47                                                           ` hpa
2019-02-25 13:21                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-01 15:07                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25  8:49                                                           ` hpa
2019-02-22 23:55                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23  8:37                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-23 10:52                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 10:51                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 11:53                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 15:36                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23  0:34                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23  1:12                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23  1:16                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23  1:33                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23  1:40                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-25  8:33                                                       ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-25 11:55                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 12:46                                             ` [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch Will Deacon
2019-02-21 22:06                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-18  9:03                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 23:19                         ` [PATCH v3 3/4] uaccess: Check no rescheduling function is called in unsafe region Linus Torvalds
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] arm64: uaccess: Implement user_access_region_active Julien Thierry
2019-01-25 14:27 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] uaccess: Add unsafe accessors for arm64 Catalin Marinas
2019-01-30 16:17 ` Julien Thierry

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