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From: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	acme@kernel.org, will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Suzuki Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 4/7] driver/perf/arm_pmu_platform: Add support for BRBE attributes detection
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:54:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90f4abd0-2314-19e4-176c-00f15100ada0@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3tjfg/aPIixPTbs@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com>



On 11/21/22 17:09, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:06:31PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/18/22 23:31, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 11:55:11AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>>>> This adds arm pmu infrastrure to probe BRBE implementation's attributes via
>>>> driver exported callbacks later. The actual BRBE feature detection will be
>>>> added by the driver itself.
>>>>
>>>> CPU specific BRBE entries, cycle count, format support gets detected during
>>>> PMU init. This information gets saved in per-cpu struct pmu_hw_events which
>>>> later helps in operating BRBE during a perf event context.
>>>
>>> Do we expect this to vary between CPUs handled by the same struct arm_pmu ?
>>
>> BRBE registers are per CPU, and the spec does not assert about BRBE properties
>> being the same across the system, served via same the struct arm_pmu.
> 
> The same is true of the PMU, and struct arm_pmu does not cover the whole
> system, it covers each *micro-architecture* within the system.
> 
> I think BRBE should be treated the same, i.e. uniform *within* a struct
> arm_pmu.

Understood, detected on one and verified on all ?

> 
>> Hence it would be inaccurate to make that assumption, which might have just
>> avoided all these IPI based probes during boot.
> 
> FWIW, I would be happy to IPI all CPUs during boot to verify uniformity of CPUs
> within an arm_pmu; I just don't think that BRBE should be treated differently
> from the rest of the PMU features.

Hence BRBE probing should be done inside an updated __armv8pmu_probe_pmu().

static int armv8pmu_probe_pmu(struct arm_pmu *cpu_pmu)
{
        struct armv8pmu_probe_info probe = {
                .pmu = cpu_pmu,
                .present = false,
        };
        int ret;

        ret = smp_call_function_any(&cpu_pmu->supported_cpus,
                                    __armv8pmu_probe_pmu,
                                    &probe, 1);
        if (ret)
                return ret;

        return probe.present ? 0 : -ENODEV;
}

But if BRBE is assumed (and verified) to be same across the micro-architecture,
then following BRBE attributes when captured should be part of 'struct arm_pmu'
instead of 'struct pmu_hw_events' as is the case currently.

        /* Detected BRBE attributes */
        bool                            brbe_v1p1;
        int                             brbe_cc;
        int                             brbe_nr;
        int                             brbe_format;

> 
> [...]
> 
>>>> +	hw_events = per_cpu_ptr(armpmu->hw_events, smp_processor_id());
>>>> +	armpmu->brbe_probe(hw_events);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +static int armpmu_request_brbe(struct arm_pmu *armpmu)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	int cpu, err = 0;
>>>> +
>>>> +	for_each_cpu(cpu, &armpmu->supported_cpus) {
>>>> +		err = smp_call_function_single(cpu, arm_brbe_probe_cpu, armpmu, 1);
>>>
>>> Why does this need to be called on each CPU in the supported_cpus mask?
>>
>> Is not supported_cpus derived after partitioning the IRQ in pmu_parse_percpu_irq().
>> The idea is to fill up BRBE buffer attributes, on all such supported cpus which could
>> trigger PMU interrupt. Is the concern, that not all cpus in supported_cpus mask might
>> not be online during boot, hence IPIs could not be served, hence BRBE attributed for
>> them could not be fetched ?
> 
> As above, I think this is solvable if we mandate that BRBE must be uniform
> *within* an arm_pmu's supported CPUs; then we only need one CPU in the
> supported_cpus mask to be present at boot time, as with the rest of the PMU
> code.
> 
> We could *verify* that when onlining a CPU.

Understood.

> 
>>> I don't see anything here to handle late hotplug, so this looks suspicious.
>>
>> Right, I should add cpu hotplug handling, otherwise risk loosing BRBE support on cpus
>> which might have been offline during boot i.e when above IPI based probe happened ?
>>
>>> Either we're missing something, or it's redundant at boot time.
>>
>> Should we add cpu hotplug online-offline handlers like some other PMU drivers ? Let
>> me know if there are some other concerns.
>>
>> cpuhp_setup_state_multi(CPUHP_AP_ONLINE_DYN, DRVNAME,
>> 			arm_brbe_cpu_startup,
>> 		        arm_brbe_cpu_teardown)
> 
> We *could* add that, but that's going to require ordering against the existing
> hooks for probing arm_pmu.

Right.

> 
> Why can't this hang off the exising hooks for arm_pmu? We're treating this as
> part of the PMU anyway, so I don't understand why we should probe it
> separately.
Okay, will try and see what all changes are required to move the probing into generic
arm_pmu probe, and capture the BRBE attributes inside struct arm_pmu.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-28  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07  6:25 [PATCH V5 0/7] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 1/7] arm64/perf: Add BRBE registers and fields Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07 15:15   ` Mark Brown
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 2/7] arm64/perf: Update struct arm_pmu for BRBE Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-09 11:30   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2022-11-18  6:39     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 17:47       ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-29  6:06         ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 3/7] arm64/perf: Update struct pmu_hw_events " Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 4/7] driver/perf/arm_pmu_platform: Add support for BRBE attributes detection Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 18:01   ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-21  6:36     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-21 11:39       ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-28  8:24         ` Anshuman Khandual [this message]
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 5/7] arm64/perf: Drive BRBE from perf event states Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 18:15   ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-29  6:26     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 6/7] arm64/perf: Add BRBE driver Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-09  3:08   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-16 16:42   ` James Clark
2022-11-17  5:45     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-17 10:09       ` James Clark
2022-11-18  6:14         ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-29 15:53   ` James Clark
2022-11-30  4:49     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-30 16:56       ` James Clark
2022-12-06 17:05       ` James Clark
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 7/7] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling Anshuman Khandual

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