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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	acme@kernel.org, will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Suzuki Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 4/7] driver/perf/arm_pmu_platform: Add support for BRBE attributes detection
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 11:39:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3tjfg/aPIixPTbs@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa55fccc-455c-828a-b5fb-de5cb269e35b@arm.com>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:06:31PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/18/22 23:31, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 11:55:11AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> This adds arm pmu infrastrure to probe BRBE implementation's attributes via
> >> driver exported callbacks later. The actual BRBE feature detection will be
> >> added by the driver itself.
> >>
> >> CPU specific BRBE entries, cycle count, format support gets detected during
> >> PMU init. This information gets saved in per-cpu struct pmu_hw_events which
> >> later helps in operating BRBE during a perf event context.
> > 
> > Do we expect this to vary between CPUs handled by the same struct arm_pmu ?
> 
> BRBE registers are per CPU, and the spec does not assert about BRBE properties
> being the same across the system, served via same the struct arm_pmu.

The same is true of the PMU, and struct arm_pmu does not cover the whole
system, it covers each *micro-architecture* within the system.

I think BRBE should be treated the same, i.e. uniform *within* a struct
arm_pmu.

> Hence it would be inaccurate to make that assumption, which might have just
> avoided all these IPI based probes during boot.

FWIW, I would be happy to IPI all CPUs during boot to verify uniformity of CPUs
within an arm_pmu; I just don't think that BRBE should be treated differently
from the rest of the PMU features.

[...]

> >> +	hw_events = per_cpu_ptr(armpmu->hw_events, smp_processor_id());
> >> +	armpmu->brbe_probe(hw_events);
> >> +}
> >> +
> >> +static int armpmu_request_brbe(struct arm_pmu *armpmu)
> >> +{
> >> +	int cpu, err = 0;
> >> +
> >> +	for_each_cpu(cpu, &armpmu->supported_cpus) {
> >> +		err = smp_call_function_single(cpu, arm_brbe_probe_cpu, armpmu, 1);
> > 
> > Why does this need to be called on each CPU in the supported_cpus mask?
> 
> Is not supported_cpus derived after partitioning the IRQ in pmu_parse_percpu_irq().
> The idea is to fill up BRBE buffer attributes, on all such supported cpus which could
> trigger PMU interrupt. Is the concern, that not all cpus in supported_cpus mask might
> not be online during boot, hence IPIs could not be served, hence BRBE attributed for
> them could not be fetched ?

As above, I think this is solvable if we mandate that BRBE must be uniform
*within* an arm_pmu's supported CPUs; then we only need one CPU in the
supported_cpus mask to be present at boot time, as with the rest of the PMU
code.

We could *verify* that when onlining a CPU.

> > I don't see anything here to handle late hotplug, so this looks suspicious.
> 
> Right, I should add cpu hotplug handling, otherwise risk loosing BRBE support on cpus
> which might have been offline during boot i.e when above IPI based probe happened ?
> 
> > Either we're missing something, or it's redundant at boot time.
> 
> Should we add cpu hotplug online-offline handlers like some other PMU drivers ? Let
> me know if there are some other concerns.
> 
> cpuhp_setup_state_multi(CPUHP_AP_ONLINE_DYN, DRVNAME,
> 			arm_brbe_cpu_startup,
> 		        arm_brbe_cpu_teardown)

We *could* add that, but that's going to require ordering against the existing
hooks for probing arm_pmu.

Why can't this hang off the exising hooks for arm_pmu? We're treating this as
part of the PMU anyway, so I don't understand why we should probe it
separately.

Thanks,
Mark.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-21 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07  6:25 [PATCH V5 0/7] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 1/7] arm64/perf: Add BRBE registers and fields Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07 15:15   ` Mark Brown
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 2/7] arm64/perf: Update struct arm_pmu for BRBE Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-09 11:30   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2022-11-18  6:39     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 17:47       ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-29  6:06         ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 3/7] arm64/perf: Update struct pmu_hw_events " Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 4/7] driver/perf/arm_pmu_platform: Add support for BRBE attributes detection Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 18:01   ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-21  6:36     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-21 11:39       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2022-11-28  8:24         ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 5/7] arm64/perf: Drive BRBE from perf event states Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 18:15   ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-29  6:26     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 6/7] arm64/perf: Add BRBE driver Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-09  3:08   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-16 16:42   ` James Clark
2022-11-17  5:45     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-17 10:09       ` James Clark
2022-11-18  6:14         ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-29 15:53   ` James Clark
2022-11-30  4:49     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-30 16:56       ` James Clark
2022-12-06 17:05       ` James Clark
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 7/7] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling Anshuman Khandual

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