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From: Alan Mikhak <alan.mikhak@sifive.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Joao Pinto <Joao.Pinto@synopsys.com>,
	Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@linaro.org>,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] pci: designware: add separate driver for the MSI part of the RC
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:09:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABEDWGxDz6njYYQN879XnGmY2vxOKvbygeg=9nBK54U6WP8_ug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <867e0o6ssr.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 2:36 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 09:35:56 +0000,
> Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > (updated some email addresses in cc, including my own)
> >
> > On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 01:54, Alan Mikhak <alan.mikhak@sifive.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi..
> > >
> > > What is the right approach for adding MSI support for the generic
> > > Linux PCI host driver?
> > >
> > > I came across this patch which seems to address a similar
> > > situation. It seems to have been dropped in v3 of the patchset
> > > with the explanation "drop MSI patch [for now], since it
> > > turns out we may not need it".
> > >
> > > [PATCH 2/3] pci: designware: add separate driver for the MSI part of the RC
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20170821192907.8695-3-ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org/
> > >
> > > [PATCH v2 2/3] pci: designware: add separate driver for the MSI part of the RC
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20170824184321.19432-3-ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org/
> > >
> > > [PATCH v3 0/2] pci: add support for firmware initialized designware RCs
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20170828180437.2646-1-ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org/
> > >
> >
> > For the platform in question, it turned out that we could use the MSI
> > block of the core's GIC interrupt controller directly, which is a much
> > better solution.
> >
> > In general, turning MSIs into wired interrupts is not a great idea,
> > since the whole point of MSIs is that they are sufficiently similar to
> > other DMA transactions to ensure that the interrupt won't arrive
> > before the related memory transactions have completed.
> >
> > If your interrupt controller does not have this capability, then yes,
> > you are stuck with this little widget that decodes an inbound write to
> > a magic address and turns it into a wired interrupt.
>
> I can only second this. It is much better to have a generic block
> implementing MSI *in a non multiplexed way*, for multiple reasons:
>
> - the interrupt vs DMA race that Ard mentions above,
>
> - MSIs are very often used to describe the state of per-CPU queues. If
>   you multiplex MSIs behind a single multiplexing interrupt, it is
>   always the same CPU that gets interrupted, and you don't benefit
>   from having multiple queues at all.
>
> Even if you have to implement the support as a bunch of wired
> interrupts, there is still a lot of value in keeping a 1:1 mapping
> between MSIs and wires.
>
> Thanks,
>
>         M.
>
> --
> Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny.

Ard and Marc, Thanks for you comments. I will take a look at the code
related to MSI block of GIC interrupt controller for some reference.

I am looking into supporting MSI in a non-multiplexed way when using
ECAM and the generic Linux PCI host driver when Linux is booted
from U-Boot.

Specifically, what is the right approach for sharing the physical
address of the MSI data block used in Linux with U-Boot?

I imagine the Linux driver for MSI interrupt controller allocates
some DMA-able memory for use as the MSI data block. The
U-Boot PCIe driver would program an inbound ATU region to
map mem writes from endpoint devices to that MSI data block
before booting Linux.

Comments are appreciated.

Alan

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-18 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-21 19:29 [PATCH 0/3] pci: add support for firmware initialized designware RCs Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-21 19:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] pci: designware: add driver for DWC controller in ECAM shift mode Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24 16:24   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-24 16:25   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-21 19:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] pci: designware: add separate driver for the MSI part of the RC Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24 16:42   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-08-24 16:43     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24 16:48   ` Robin Murphy
2017-08-24 16:50     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-02-15  0:54   ` Alan Mikhak
2020-02-15  9:35     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-02-15 10:36       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18 19:09         ` Alan Mikhak [this message]
2020-02-19  8:11           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-19  8:17             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-02-19 20:24               ` Alan Mikhak
2020-02-19 21:06                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-02-19 21:35                   ` Alan Mikhak
2017-08-21 19:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] dt-bindings: designware: add binding for Designware PCIe in ECAM mode Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24 16:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] pci: add support for firmware initialized designware RCs Bjorn Helgaas
2017-08-31 19:21   ` Ard Biesheuvel

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