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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	 David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] btrfs: Avoid live-lock in search_ioctl() on hardware with sub-page faults
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:13:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wgUn1vBReeNcZNEObkxPQGhN5EUq5MC94cwF0FaQvd2rQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YZ9vM91Uj8g36VQC@arm.com>

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 3:10 AM Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> For this specific btrfs case, if we want go with tuning the offset based
> on the fault address, we'd need copy_to_user_nofault() (or a new
> function) to be exact.

I really don't see why you harp on the exactness.

I really believe that the fix is to make the read/write probing just
be more aggressive.

Make the read/write probing require that AT LEAST <n> bytes be
readable/writable at the beginning, where 'n' is 'min(len,ALIGN)', and
ALIGN is whatever size that copy_from/to_user_xyz() might require just
because it might do multi-byte accesses.

In fact, make ALIGN be perhaps something reasonable like 512 bytes or
whatever, and then you know you can handle the btrfs "copy a whole
structure and reset if that fails" case too.

Don't require that the fundamental copying routines (and whatever
fixup the code might need) be some kind of byte-precise - it's the
error case that should instead be made stricter.

If the user gave you a range that triggered a pointer color mismatch,
then returning an error is fine, rather than say "we'll do as much as
we can and waste time and effort on being byte-exact too".

Your earlier argument was that it was too expensive to probe things.
That was based on looking at the whole range that migth be MB (or GB)
in size. So just make it check the first <n> bytes, and problem
solved.

                 Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-25 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-24 19:20 [PATCH 0/3] Avoid live-lock in fault-in+uaccess loops with sub-page faults Catalin Marinas
2021-11-24 19:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: Introduce fault_in_exact_writeable() to probe for " Catalin Marinas
2021-11-24 19:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm64: Add support for sub-page faults user probing Catalin Marinas
2021-11-24 19:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] btrfs: Avoid live-lock in search_ioctl() on hardware with sub-page faults Catalin Marinas
2021-11-24 20:03   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-24 20:37     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-25 22:25       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-25 22:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-26 22:29         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-26 22:57           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-27  3:52             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-27 14:33               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-27 12:39         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-27 15:21           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-27 18:05             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-29 12:16               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-29 13:33                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-29 15:36                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-29 18:40                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-29 19:31                       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-29 20:56                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-29 21:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-29 23:12                           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-29 13:52               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-24 23:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-25 11:10       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-25 18:13         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-11-25 20:43           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-25 21:02             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-25 21:29               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-11-25 21:40               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-11-26 16:42   ` David Sterba
2021-11-24 21:36 ` [PATCH 0/3] Avoid live-lock in fault-in+uaccess loops " Andrew Morton
2021-11-24 22:31   ` Catalin Marinas

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