From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> To: Mohamed Mediouni <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, Stan Skowronek <stan@corellium.com> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 7/7] irqchip/apple-aic: add SMP support to the Apple AIC driver. Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:57:34 -0600 Message-ID: <CAL_JsqK=QMKnhOoxpb+9-wUtMFR=sfqJ7pMc=O6pR4O0hT99WQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <950D140B-491A-40EB-9FDB-D7173B86737B@caramail.com> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:09 PM Mohamed Mediouni <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 21 Jan 2021, at 18:37, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:43 AM Mohamed Mediouni > > <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com> wrote: > >>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 17:40, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 6:52 AM Mohamed Mediouni > >>> <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com> wrote: > >>>>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 13:44, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 2:27 PM Mohamed Mediouni > >>>>> <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >>>>>> @@ -186,8 +325,11 @@ static int __init apple_aic_init(struct device_node *node, > >>>>>> if (WARN(!aic.base, "unable to map aic registers\n")) > >>>>>> return -EINVAL; > >>>>>> > >>>>>> + aic.fast_ipi = of_property_read_bool(node, "fast-ipi"); > >>>>> > >>>>> Where is this property documented, and what decides which one to use? > >>>> It’s getting documented in the next patch set. > >>>> > >>>> This property is there to enable support for older iPhone processors > >>>> later on, some of which do not have fast IPI support. > >>>> > >>>> On Apple M1, fast-ipi is always on. > >>> > >>> This should be implied by the compatible string which needs to be more > >>> specific and include the SoC name. > >>> > >>> Rob > >> > >> Then we’ll eventually have two aic compatible strings, aic which is compatible > >> with Apple A7 onwards and aicv2 which is a superset with fast IPI (introduced > >> on the Apple A11, 3 years ago, with no further programmer-visible changes since > >> then). > >> > >> Does that look right? > > > > If we did this from the start, it would evolve like this: > > > > A7: "AAPL,a7-aic" > > A8: "AAPL,a8-aic", "AAPL,a7-aic" # Read this as A8 AIC is backwards > > compatible with A7 AIC > > A9: "AAPL,a9-aic", "AAPL,a7-aic" > > > > A11: "AAPL,a11-aic", "AAPL,a7-aic" > > > > If the A11 version could work on an OS that only supported the > > original model (sounds like this is the case) Or if it's not backwards > > compatible: > > > > The A11 AIC indeed can be used by older drivers that aren’t aware > of the fast IPI path introduced on A11 just fine. > > > A11: "AAPL,a11-aic" > > > > If the A11 is different and not backwards compatible. > > > > Then M1 could be: > > > > M1: "AAPL,m1-aic", "AAPL,a11-aic" > > > > Or to even support an OS with only v1 support: > > > > M1: "AAPL,m1-aic", "AAPL,a11-aic", "AAPL,a7-aic" > > > > You don't really need the fallback here because there isn't any > > existing OS support and the baseline is the M1. > > > > If you want to have generic fallback compatible strings with versions, > > that's fine too. I'm not really a fan of version numbers that are just > > made up by the binding author though. Most SoC vendors don't have > > rigorous versioning of their IP and those that do seem to have a new > > version on every SoC. > > > > The important part is *always* having an SoC specific compatible so > > you can deal with any quirk or feature without having to change the > > DTB. Everyone says blocks are 'the same' until they aren’t. > > > Is it fine if such a SoC-specific compatible is present but with having > the driver only know about AAPL,a11-aic for example? > (To just have it when it’d be needed if ever in the future, but not uselessly > add entries to the driver that will not be currently used) Yes, that's expected. You add the more specific compatible when you add the feature or quirk work-around. > > On a tangent: > > The internal naming scheme used by Apple is off-by-one: > > Apple A14 for example is Apple H13P (H-series 13th gen processor, Phone) > Apple M1 is Apple H13G (H-series 13th gen, G series) > (And Apple A12X is Apple H11G for example, with A12 being H11P) > > Should we bother with those or use the marketing names? Especially because > the beefier SoCs might not be of the H series anyway… as the internal scheme > reveals that M1 could as well have been an A14X. > > And there’s also the other internal naming scheme: > Apple A12 being t8020, Apple A12X being t8027 > Apple A14 being t8101 > Apple M1 being t8103 > > T there means the foundry at which the chip was manufactured, in the cases above TSMC. > > Of course Apple itself uses both… with the marketing name being nowhere in their device > trees. I'd probably lean toward the marketing names, but don't really care as long as you're consistent both for a given SoC and across generations. Rob _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply index Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-01-20 13:27 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Linux on Apple Silicon Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] arm64: kernel: FIQ support Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] arm64: kernel: Add a WFI hook Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 16:46 ` Alexander Graf [not found] ` <94C20F55-D3B8-4349-B26F-9EA8AAEBF639@caramail.com> 2021-01-21 12:33 ` Hector Martin 'marcan' 2021-01-21 10:52 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-21 11:01 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 11:36 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-20 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] arm64: mm: use nGnRnE instead of nGnRE on Apple processors Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 16:47 ` Alexander Graf 2021-01-20 18:06 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 18:10 ` Alexander Graf 2021-01-21 11:27 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-21 11:38 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-21 11:44 ` Marc Zyngier 2021-01-21 12:47 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-21 15:12 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 16:25 ` Marc Zyngier 2021-01-21 17:55 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-21 18:15 ` Marc Zyngier 2021-01-21 18:22 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 18:22 ` Will Deacon 2021-01-20 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] irqchip/apple-aic: Add support for Apple AIC Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 17:11 ` Alexander Graf 2021-01-20 18:04 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 20:16 ` Andrew Lunn 2021-01-20 21:18 ` Stan Skowronek 2021-01-21 9:48 ` Linus Walleij 2021-01-21 10:37 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-21 15:29 ` Hector Martin 'marcan' 2021-01-21 17:09 ` Rob Herring 2021-01-21 17:45 ` Rob Herring 2021-01-21 16:44 ` Rob Herring 2021-01-21 16:53 ` Hector Martin 'marcan' 2021-01-20 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] arm64/Kconfig: Add Apple Silicon SoC platform Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-20 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] arm64: kernel: Apple CPU start driver Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 11:14 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-20 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] irqchip/apple-aic: add SMP support to the Apple AIC driver Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 12:44 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-21 12:50 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 13:00 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-21 13:01 ` Hector Martin 'marcan' 2021-01-21 13:22 ` Marc Zyngier 2021-01-21 13:32 ` Mark Rutland 2021-01-21 14:05 ` Marc Zyngier 2021-01-21 13:34 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 14:10 ` Marc Zyngier 2021-01-21 15:09 ` Arnd Bergmann 2021-01-21 15:18 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 16:40 ` Rob Herring 2021-01-21 16:43 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 17:37 ` Rob Herring 2021-01-21 18:08 ` Mohamed Mediouni 2021-01-21 18:57 ` Rob Herring [this message] 2021-02-02 19:15 ` Linus Walleij
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