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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, martin.petersen@oracle.com, agk@redhat.com,
	shli@kernel.org, philipp.reisner@linbit.com,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: always use REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES for zeroing offload
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:57:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170327145740.GB24952@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170327140307.GA13020@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:03:07AM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> By "you" I assume you're referring to Lars?

Yes.

> Lars' approach for discard,
> when drbd is layered on dm-thinp, feels over-engineered.  Not his fault,
> the way discard and zeroing got conflated certainly lends itself to
> these ugly hacks.  SO I do appreciate that for anything to leverage
> discard_zeroes_data it needs to be reliable.  Which runs counter to how
> discard was implemented (discard may get silently dropped!)  But that is
> why dm-thinp doesn't advertise dzd.  Anyway...

That's exactly what this series does - remove discard_zeroes_data and
use the new REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES for anything that wants zeroing offload.

> As for the blkdev_issue_zeroout() resorting to manually zeroing the
> range, if the discard fails or dzd not supported, that certainly
> requires DM thinp to implement manual zeroing of the head and tail of
> the range if partial blocks are being zeroed.  So I welcome any advances
> there.  It is probably something that is best left to Joe or myself to
> tackle.  But I'll gladly accept patches ;)

Ok, I'll happily leave this to the two of you..

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-27 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-23 14:33 RFC: always use REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES for zeroing offload Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 01/23] block: renumber REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-28 16:12   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-03-30  8:53     ` hch
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 02/23] block: implement splitting of REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES bios Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 03/23] sd: implement REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-28 18:50   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-03-28 19:33     ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-29 14:51     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-29 16:28       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-03-29 16:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-30  2:25     ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 04/23] md: support REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 05/23] dm: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 06/23] dm-kcopyd: switch to use REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:55   ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-23 14:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 15:10       ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-27  9:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 07/23] block: stop using blkdev_issue_write_same for zeroing Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 08/23] block: add a flags argument to (__)blkdev_issue_zeroout Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 09/23] block: add a REQ_UNMAP flag for REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 10/23] block: add a new BLKDEV_ZERO_NOFALLBACK flag Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 11/23] block_dev: use blkdev_issue_zerout for hole punches Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-28 16:50   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-03-30  8:59     ` hch
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 12/23] sd: handle REQ_UNMAP Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-28 16:48   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-03-29 14:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-30  9:02     ` hch
2017-03-30 15:28       ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-03-30 17:30         ` hch
2017-03-31  2:19           ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-03-31  7:18             ` hch
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 13/23] nvme: implement REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 14/23] zram: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 15/23] loop: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 16/23] brd: remove discard support Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 17/23] rbd: remove the discard_zeroes_data flag Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 18/23] rsxx: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 19/23] mmc: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 20/23] block: stop using discards for zeroing Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 21/23] drbd: make intelligent use of blkdev_issue_zeroout Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 22/23] drbd: implement REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 10:06   ` Lars Ellenberg
2017-03-30 11:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 12:50       ` [Drbd-dev] " Lars Ellenberg
2017-03-30 13:49       ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-30 15:20         ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-03-30 23:15           ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-31  2:34             ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-03-31  7:17             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-23 14:33 ` [PATCH 23/23] block: remove the discard_zeroes_data flag Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-28 17:00   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-03-29 14:52     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-30  9:06     ` hch
2017-03-30 15:29       ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-03-30 17:29         ` hch
2017-03-23 15:54 ` RFC: always use REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES for zeroing offload Lars Ellenberg
2017-03-23 17:02   ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-23 22:53     ` Lars Ellenberg
2017-03-29 14:57       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-27  9:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-27 14:03     ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-27 14:57       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-03-27 15:08       ` [Drbd-dev] " Bart Van Assche
2017-03-30  9:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-30 15:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2017-03-30 15:22   ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-03-30 15:38     ` Mike Snitzer

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