From: kj@orbekk.com
To: "Alasdair G Kergon" <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: "Mike Snitzer" <snitzer@redhat.com>,
dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
harshads@google.com, "Khazhismel Kumykov" <khazhy@google.com>,
orbekk@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dm: track io errors per mapped device
Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 15:18:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48580ec0-fc4e-4faa-976f-0fb192cd08fa@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200508001825.GC22266@agk-dp.fab.redhat.com>
Hi Alasdair,
Thank you for your time and comments.
On Thu, May 7, 2020, at 20:18, Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 07:05:33PM -0400, Kjetil Orbekk wrote:
> > This will track ioerr_cnt on all dm targets and expose it as
> > <device>/dm/ioerr_cnt.
>
> How do you propose to use this?
> What are you trying to measure and why?
> - How exact must the number be to meet your requirements?
This is proposed in order to detect if I/O errors have occurred on the dm device. Deriving this from the ioerr_cnt from the underlying device was considered, but it's not reliable for dm devices that tolerate some underlying errors (raid setups and similar).
> Or to put it another way, do you need to know the exact number you are
> exposing, or do you derive something else from this which could also be
> derived from an alternative number?
Our use case is to detect if I/O errors have happened at all. We expect the ioerr_cnt to increase when there are errors, but the precise number is not important in our environment.
> In particular, given the way we split and clone and stack devices (so
> there may be an element of multiplication), and reload tables (so
> existing values might become irrelevant), did you consider alternative
> semantics before selecting this approach?
>
> (Or to put it another way, is there a need to reset it or track
> the value since the last resume?)
I'm not very familiar with dm and I don't follow how the cloning and stacking will lead to multiplication. Do you have any suggestions for how I might deal with that?
Resetting the value would not be desirable for our use case, because the probing process can miss I/O errors that happen right before a device is suspended and then resumed, though I can imagine that there might be cases where one would want that. Users could look at increases in ioerr_cnt instead of the absolute numbers, or I could provide a way to reset the counter if desired.
> (Documentation is also needed - which ought to explain the semantics
> and how the observed values interact with the use of device-mapper
> features.)
I will be happy to provide an updated patch with inline documentation once I have addressed your comments. Are there any other places where I need to update documentation?
--
Stay safe!
KJ
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-08 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-07 23:05 [PATCH] dm: track io errors per mapped device Kjetil Orbekk
2020-05-08 0:18 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2020-05-08 19:18 ` kj [this message]
2020-05-08 1:12 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-05-08 19:22 ` kj
2020-05-08 21:09 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-05-09 16:01 ` kj
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