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From: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFS/BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 10:55:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ebffa324-0d42-4227-b162-0dad19144943@toxicpanda.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <162881913686.1695.12479588032010502384@noble.neil.brown.name>

On 8/12/21 9:45 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> 
> [[This patch is a minimal patch which addresses the current problems
>    with nfsd and btrfs, in a way which I think is most supportable, least
>    surprising, and least likely to impact any future attempts to more
>    completely fix the btrfs file-identify problem]]
> 
> BTRFS does not provide unique inode numbers across a filesystem.
> It *does* provide unique inode numbers with a subvolume and
> uses synthetic device numbers for different subvolumes to ensure
> uniqueness for device+inode.
> 
> nfsd cannot use these varying device numbers.  If nfsd were to
> synthesise different stable filesystem ids to give to the client, that
> would cause subvolumes to appear in the mount table on the client, even
> though they don't appear in the mount table on the server.  Also, NFSv3
> doesn't support changing the filesystem id without a new explicit
> mount on the client (this is partially supported in practice, but
> violates the protocol specification).
> 
> So currently, the roots of all subvolumes report the same inode number
> in the same filesystem to NFS clients and tools like 'find' notice that
> a directory has the same identity as an ancestor, and so refuse to
> enter that directory.
> 
> This patch allows btrfs (or any filesystem) to provide a 64bit number
> that can be xored with the inode number to make the number more unique.
> Rather than the client being certain to see duplicates, with this patch
> it is possible but extremely rare.
> 
> The number than btrfs provides is a swab64() version of the subvolume
> identifier.  This has most entropy in the high bits (the low bits of the
> subvolume identifer), while the inoe has most entropy in the low bits.
> The result will always be unique within a subvolume, and will almost
> always be unique across the filesystem.
> 

This is a reasonable approach to me, solves the problem without being overly 
complicated and side-steps the thornier issues around how we deal with 
subvolumes.  I'll leave it up to the other maintainers of the other fs'es to 
weigh in, but for me you can add

Acked-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>

Thanks,

Josef

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-13 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-27 22:37 [PATCH/RFC 00/11] expose btrfs subvols in mount table correctly NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 07/11] exportfs: Allow filehandle lookup to cross internal mount points NeilBrown
2021-07-28 10:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-07-29  0:28     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29  5:27       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-06  7:52         ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-06  8:08           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-06  8:18             ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-07-28 19:17   ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-28 22:25     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 04/11] VFS: export lookup_mnt() NeilBrown
2021-07-30  0:31   ` Al Viro
2021-07-30  5:33     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 01/11] VFS: show correct dev num in mountinfo NeilBrown
2021-07-30  0:25   ` Al Viro
2021-07-30  5:28     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  5:54       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-07-30  6:13         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  7:18           ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-07-30  7:33             ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  7:59               ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-02  4:18                 ` A Third perspective on BTRFS nfsd subvol dev/inode number issues NeilBrown
2021-08-02  5:25                   ` Al Viro
2021-08-02  5:40                     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02  7:54                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-02 13:53                         ` Josef Bacik
2021-08-03 22:29                           ` Qu Wenruo
2021-08-02 14:47                         ` Frank Filz
2021-08-02 21:24                         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02  7:15                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2021-08-02 21:40                     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02 12:39                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 20:32                     ` Patrick Goetz
2021-08-02 20:41                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 21:10                     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02 21:50                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 21:59                         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02 22:14                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 22:36                             ` NeilBrown
2021-08-03  0:15                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 03/11] VFS: pass lookup_flags into follow_down() NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 11/11] btrfs: use automount to bind-mount all subvol roots NeilBrown
2021-07-28  8:37   ` kernel test robot
2021-07-28  8:37   ` [RFC PATCH] btrfs: btrfs_mountpoint_expiry_timeout can be static kernel test robot
2021-07-28 13:12   ` [PATCH 11/11] btrfs: use automount to bind-mount all subvol roots Christian Brauner
2021-07-29  0:43     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 14:38       ` Christian Brauner
2021-07-31  6:25   ` [btrfs] 5874902268: xfstests.btrfs.202.fail kernel test robot
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 06/11] nfsd: include a vfsmount in struct svc_fh NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 10/11] btrfs: introduce mapping function from location to inum NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 02/11] VFS: allow d_automount to create in-place bind-mount NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 09/11] nfsd: Allow filehandle lookup to cross internal mount points NeilBrown
2021-07-28 19:15   ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-28 22:29     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  0:42   ` Al Viro
2021-07-30  5:43     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 08/11] nfsd: change get_parent_attributes() to nfsd_get_mounted_on() NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 05/11] VFS: new function: mount_is_internal() NeilBrown
2021-07-28  2:16   ` Al Viro
2021-07-28  3:32     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  0:34       ` Al Viro
2021-07-28  2:19 ` [PATCH/RFC 00/11] expose btrfs subvols in mount table correctly Al Viro
2021-07-28  4:58 ` Wang Yugui
2021-07-28  6:04   ` Wang Yugui
2021-07-28  7:01     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-28 12:26       ` Neal Gompa
2021-07-28 19:14         ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-29  1:29           ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-29  1:43             ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 23:20               ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-28 22:50         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29  2:37           ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-29  3:36             ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 23:20               ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-30  2:36                 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  5:25                   ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30  5:31                     ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30  5:53                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-07-30  6:00                       ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  6:09                         ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30  5:58                     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  6:23                       ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30  6:53                         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30  7:09                           ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30 18:15                             ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-30 15:17                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-30 15:48                           ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-30 16:25                             ` Forza
2021-07-30 17:43                             ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-30  5:28                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-07-28 13:43       ` g.btrfs
2021-07-29  1:39         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29  9:28           ` Graham Cobb
2021-07-28  7:06   ` NeilBrown
2021-07-28  9:36     ` Wang Yugui
2021-07-28 19:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-28 21:30   ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-30  0:13     ` Al Viro
2021-07-30  6:08       ` NeilBrown
2021-08-13  1:45 ` [PATCH] VFS/BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export NeilBrown
2021-08-13 14:55   ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2021-08-15  7:39   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 19:35     ` Roman Mamedov
2021-08-15 21:03       ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 21:53         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-17 19:34           ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-17 21:39             ` NeilBrown
2021-08-18 17:24               ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 22:17       ` NeilBrown
2021-08-19  8:01         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-20  3:21           ` NeilBrown
2021-08-20  6:23             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-23  4:05         ` [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: " NeilBrown
2021-08-18 14:54   ` [PATCH] VFS/BTRFS/NFSD: " Wang Yugui
2021-08-18 21:46     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-19  2:19       ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-08-20  2:54         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-22 19:29           ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-08-23  5:51             ` NeilBrown
2021-08-23 23:22             ` NeilBrown
2021-08-25  2:06               ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-08-23  0:57         ` Wang Yugui

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