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From: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
To: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	<linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 09:32:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dad950db-4c02-e5a2-0ce9-682a40cd12d7@de.bosch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <146783774807.35356.6362595927321996311@resonance>

Hi Michael,

On 06.07.2016 22:42, Michael Turquette wrote:
> Hi Julien,
>
> Quoting Julien Grall (2016-07-06 06:10:52)
>> On 06/07/16 02:34, Michael Turquette wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>
>> Hello Michael,
>>
>>> Quoting Dirk Behme (2016-06-30 03:32:32)
>>>> Some clocks might be used by the Xen hypervisor and not by the Linux
>>>> kernel. If these are not registered by the Linux kernel, they might be
>>>> disabled by clk_disable_unused() as the kernel doesn't know that they
>>>> are used. The clock of the serial console handled by Xen is one
>>>> example for this. It might be disabled by clk_disable_unused() which
>>>> stops the whole serial output, even from Xen, then.
>>>
>>> This whole thread had me confused until I realized that it all boiled
>>> down to some nomenclature issues (for me).
>>>
>>> This code does not _register_ any clocks. It simply gets them and
>>> enables them, which is what every other clk consumer in the Linux kernel
>>> does. More details below.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Up to now, the workaround for this has been to use the Linux kernel
>>>> command line parameter 'clk_ignore_unused'. See Xen bug
>>>>
>>>> http://bugs.xenproject.org/xen/bug/45
>>>
>>> clk_ignore_unused is a band-aid, not a proper medical solution. Setting
>>> that flag will not turn clocks on for you, nor will it guarantee that
>>> those clocks are never turned off in the future. It looks like you
>>> figured this out correctly in the patch below but it is worth repeating.
>>>
>>> Also the new CLK_IS_CRITICAL flag might be of interest to you, but that
>>> flag only exists as a way to enable clocks that must be enabled for the
>>> system to function (hence, "critical") AND when those same clocks do not
>>> have an accompanying Linux driver to consume them and enable them.
>>
>> I don't think we want the kernel to enable the clock for the hypervisor.
>> We want to tell the kernel "don't touch at all to this clock, it does
>> not belong to you".
>
> But the patch *does* touch the clock from the kernel. It enables the
> clock via a call clk_prepare_enable. I'm utterly confused.


Maybe we need some advice here :)


I've used clk_prepare_enable() 'just' to get the enable count incremented

http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/clk/clk.c#L751

Because it's my understanding that enable_count is needed to prevent 
clk_disable_unused() from disabling the clock.


If there is an other / better / correct way to achieve that, please let 
us know.


I've had a look to use the CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED flag, too. But couldn't 
find a function exported by the clock framework to set that flag (?)


Best regards

Dirk

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-07  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-30 10:32 [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 14:21 ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 14:56   ` [Xen-devel] " Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 15:18     ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 15:33       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 13:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:54   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:02     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:08       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:37         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06  1:34 ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 13:10   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:16     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06 13:26       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:48       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 20:42     ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-07  7:32       ` Dirk Behme [this message]
2016-07-08  2:50         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  5:51           ` [Xen-devel] " Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  9:21             ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  6:48   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  9:35     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05  6:50 Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 10:39 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:45   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 11:07     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 23:38       ` Michael Turquette

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