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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 08/16] vfio/type1: Cache locked_vm to ease mmap_lock contention
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 14:05:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220106140527.5c292d34.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220106123456.GZ2328285@nvidia.com>

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 08:34:56 -0400
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 08:17:08PM -0500, Daniel Jordan wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 08:53:39PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:  
> > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 07:46:48PM -0500, Daniel Jordan wrote:  
> > > > padata threads hold mmap_lock as reader for the majority of their
> > > > runtime in order to call pin_user_pages_remote(), but they also
> > > > periodically take mmap_lock as writer for short periods to adjust
> > > > mm->locked_vm, hurting parallelism.
> > > > 
> > > > Alleviate the write-side contention with a per-thread cache of locked_vm
> > > > which allows taking mmap_lock as writer far less frequently.
> > > > 
> > > > Failure to refill the cache due to insufficient locked_vm will not cause
> > > > the entire pinning operation to error out.  This avoids spurious failure
> > > > in case some pinned pages aren't accounted to locked_vm.
> > > > 
> > > > Cache size is limited to provide some protection in the unlikely event
> > > > of a concurrent locked_vm accounting operation in the same address space
> > > > needlessly failing in case the cache takes more locked_vm than it needs.  
> > > 
> > > Why not just do the pinned page accounting once at the start? Why does
> > > it have to be done incrementally?  
> > 
> > Yeah, good question.  I tried doing it that way recently and it did
> > improve performance a bit, but I thought it wasn't enough of a gain to
> > justify how it overaccounted by the size of the entire pin.  
> 
> Why would it over account?

We'd be guessing that the entire virtual address mapping counts against
locked memory limits, but it might include PFNMAP pages or pages that
are already account via the page pinning interface that mdev devices
use.  At that point we're risking that the user isn't concurrently
doing something else that could fail as a result of pre-accounting and
fixup later schemes like this.  Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-06 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-06  0:46 [RFC 00/16] padata, vfio, sched: Multithreaded VFIO page pinning Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 01/16] padata: Remove __init from multithreading functions Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 02/16] padata: Return first error from a job Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 03/16] padata: Add undo support Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 04/16] padata: Detect deadlocks between main and helper threads Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 05/16] vfio/type1: Pass mm to vfio_pin_pages_remote() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 06/16] vfio/type1: Refactor dma map removal Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 07/16] vfio/type1: Parallelize vfio_pin_map_dma() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 08/16] vfio/type1: Cache locked_vm to ease mmap_lock contention Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  1:17     ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 12:34       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 21:05         ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2022-01-07  0:19           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  3:06             ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-07 15:18               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07 16:39                 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 09/16] padata: Use kthreads in do_multithreaded Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 10/16] padata: Helpers should respect main thread's CPU affinity Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 11/16] padata: Cap helpers started to online CPUs Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 12/16] sched, padata: Bound max threads with max_cfs_bandwidth_cpus() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 13/16] padata: Run helper threads at MAX_NICE Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 14/16] padata: Nice helper threads one by one to prevent starvation Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 15/16] sched/fair: Account kthread runtime debt for CFS bandwidth Daniel Jordan
2022-01-11 11:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-11 16:29     ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-12 20:18       ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-13 21:08         ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-13 21:11           ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-14  9:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-14  9:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-14 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-18 17:40       ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-14 16:30     ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-18 17:32     ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  0:46 ` [RFC 16/16] sched/fair: Consider kthread debt in cputime Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC 00/16] padata, vfio, sched: Multithreaded VFIO page pinning Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  3:03   ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-07 17:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-10 22:27       ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-11  0:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-11 16:20           ` Daniel Jordan

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